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I want start cornering faster,to be specific im struggling in rutted Flat ground corners,ive tried to use the side of the ruts as berms cost me a lever,half the time I'm slipping all over the place because I can't corner it and I lose time,the area is the 3rd section of the downhill line for the races at heldeberg,mainly where it happens,not sure of the technique since im always riding hard packed corners

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I want start cornering faster,to be specific im struggling in rutted Flat ground corners,ive tried to use the side of the ruts as berms cost me a lever,half the time I'm slipping all over the place because I can't corner it and I lose time,the area is the 3rd section of the downhill line for the races at heldeberg,mainly where it happens,not sure of the technique since im always riding hard packed corners

 

Read this: http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/article/how-to-ride-flat-turns-at-maximum-speed-44673/

 

It helped me both offroad and on the road.

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Good article regarding what to do. I have been practicing and found that when leaning the bike it helps to push down into the turn and have to hand at the top as light as it can be.

 

Disclaimer, I really suck at cornering, but have small epiphanies.

 

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may sound stupid, but what I do is as soon as I hit a corner put my foot out in line with my fork. Helps me take corners much faster if you have no burm to use. This allows your center of gravity to be more on the front wheel providing grip in the corner

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may sound stupid, but what I do is as soon as I hit a corner put my foot out in line with my fork. Helps me take corners much faster if you have no burm to use. This allows your center of gravity to be more on the front wheel providing grip in the corner

Nope. This will not work for mongooser who is a purist roadie turned into xc racer. Only the lightest pedals and shoes will do, and thus he uses clipless.

 

For everyone on flats though, great tegniek!

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You have to find the point so you can lean the bike over hard and keep your weight perfectly over that point. But there is also a limit to how fast you can take flat corners.

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on the mx/offroad bikes we set out 2 traffic cones on a flat piece of dirt and start riding around them in a big arc, and slowly then take the corners tighter and tighter, and from there progress to riding around the cones in a figure of 8. On a bicycle this is gonna be a horribly boring and tedious task but it does help with cornering.

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I read an article a while back about cornering like you on rails. Essentially, you turn your hips into the corner in the direction you want to go which helps a ton but really not as easy as it sounds. If you really flexible then it would be a lot easier.

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1. Don't take riding advice from people on an internet forum

2. Go on to youtube and look up Fabien Barel flat corners. He's a 2x DH world champion who's made a bunch of instructional video's.

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I read an article a while back about cornering like you on rails. Essentially, you turn your hips into the corner in the direction you want to go which helps a ton but really not as easy as it sounds. If you really flexible then it would be a lot easier.

 

the hip turn helps maintain your body's CoG over the tyre contact patch with the ground, and helps you lean that bike over, especially when you keep your feet on the pedals when cornering. But for foot-out guys, it's a little bit different.

 

examples with hip turn and feet on pedals:

 

Mr EWS himself

http://keyassets.timeincuk.net/inspirewp/live/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2014/12/carpark-cornering-1.jpg

 

Mitch Turnaloto

http://www.mountainflyermagazine.com/img/upimages/eddie_clark/2013/GravityNats/EClark_130803_0307.jpg

 

Josh Ratboy Bryceland

http://www.mtbtelevision.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Meribel-700x600.jpg

 

Sam Hill:

http://fstatic1.mtb-news.de/img/photos/3/4/0/2/2/_/medium/SamHillSchladmingDH.jpg

 

 

For foot-out, being centered between the wheels in a fore-aft direction, is better, as you will use stamp your foot to generate a pivot point if the wheel's start skidding. Examples:

 

Sam Hill:

sp-dhi-meribel-hill.jpg

 

Sam Hill:

http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/stories/2013/02/28/max_hill_g7k0665.jpg

 

http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p4pb2165999/p4pb2165999.jpg

 

Because Sam Hill rides flats, he is a very good example of the two styles of cornering: feet up, or foot down, and how the body weight is distributed and whether the bike is leaned or not.

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1. Don't take riding advice from people on an internet forum

2. Go on to youtube and look up Fabien Barel flat corners. He's a 2x DH world champion who's made a bunch of instructional video's.

 

given 1), he didn't even get to 2). :whistling:

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