ChrisF Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 After all this jawing it has to be No! you do know that in English a double negative (double post) is considered a YES .... Headshot 1
MrJacques Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 If Yoann Barelli was riding an e-bike he might not have injured himself https://www.pinkbike.com/news/interview-yoann-barelli-on-his-first-major-injury.html Headshot 1
gummibear Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 Interesting debate going on here at the moment. Parliament wants e-bikes and scooters to be registered as motor vehicles and pay road taxes. They not allowed on the pavements so have to use the roads.As they are electric powered motors they will have to be registered as such. Loads of petitions going around to stop it though. BigDL and Eddy Gordo 2
MrJacques Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 Interesting debate going on here at the moment. Parliament wants e-bikes and scooters to be registered as motor vehicles and pay road taxes. They not allowed on the pavements so have to use the roads.As they are electric powered motors they will have to be registered as such. Loads of petitions going around to stop it though. It does seem legit, at least for those exceeding a certain speed. DieselnDust 1
Thor Buttox Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 Interesting debate going on here at the moment. Parliament wants e-bikes and scooters to be registered as motor vehicles and pay road taxes. They not allowed on the pavements so have to use the roads.As they are electric powered motors they will have to be registered as such. Loads of petitions going around to stop it though.A petition to rebrand them as electro-couches will get them sold at all home depots and save the congestion tax. Problem solved.
Hairy Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) https://www.bikeradar.com/news/bosch-motor-updates/ Tuned no moreIn about three minutes on YouTube you can learn how to disable speed restrictions on any e-bike motor, however it appears Bosch is trying to put a stop to the practice with its 2020 drive units.Using a combination of software and sensors it can now detect if the system has been tuned and triggers an error message that switches the motor into limp mode, which will reset itself 90 minutes later. If the motor goes into limp mode because of tuning three times, you’ll have to take your bike to a Bosch dealer to have it reset with its diagnostic tool. Bosch sees this as a way to avoid further restrictions on e-bikes.“We are persistently fighting the practice of tuning and are continuing to develop our technology further. It is important to us that e-bikes — in other words pedelecs with maximum support of 25 kph — continue to be classified as bicycles in future, with all the associated rights and obligations,” Fleischer said. “If cyclists tamper with their e-bikes by tuning them, thereby risking possible accidents and injuries, this will give rise to policies that include more stringent regulations and future bans. This would cancel out the benefits that all other e-bike fans are able to enjoy. Tuning is completely unnecessary for fully enjoying everything that e-bikes have to offer. On the contrary: any tuning ruins the real fun of it all — whether on a relaxed cruise, or persuing sport riding fair and square.” Edited June 22, 2019 by Hairy ChrisF, BigDL, MDJ and 1 other 4
DieselnDust Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 Bosch took the words out of my mouth. Continued malpractice leads to regulation and taxes. In SA we want these ebikes to be cheap to mobilise the poor, decongest our roads and promote tourism. Ebikes are less polluting than a moped or scooter, easier to maintain So the future is ebikes ebikes ebikes everywhere mountain included MDJ 1
ChrisF Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 Bosch took the words out of my mouth. Continued malpractice leads to regulation and taxes. In SA we want these ebikes to be cheap to mobilise the poor, decongest our roads and promote tourism. Ebikes are less polluting than a moped or scooter, easier to maintain So the future is ebikes ebikes ebikes everywhere mountain included Friends spent some time in Europe, and bought two ebikes. Super impressed with it ! She brought hers back to SA. For typical "drive" to the shops/gym/beach she now use the ebike. Car only gets used for the longer drives. As more people embrace this, more bike parking will become standard at the local shops, less congestion for car parking. And less congestion on the roads .... now it just needs to become affordable for more people .... taxes and regulation aint going to help one bit .... DieselnDust, WaynejG and Eddy Gordo 3
Hairy Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 Friends spent some time in Europe, and bought two ebikes. Super impressed with it ! She brought hers back to SA. For typical "drive" to the shops/gym/beach she now use the ebike. Car only gets used for the longer drives. As more people embrace this, more bike parking will become standard at the local shops, less congestion for car parking. And less congestion on the roads .... now it just needs to become affordable for more people .... taxes and regulation aint going to help one bit ....In conversation with one of the people who transports furniture for us, he noted that you can bring a fully built e-bike in and register it with "A very strange code I can't recall off hand" and you then do not pay import tax on it, other than the usual VAT.
ChrisF Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 In conversation with one of the people who transports furniture for us, he noted that you can bring a fully built e-bike in and register it with "A very strange code I can't recall off hand" and you then do not pay import tax on it, other than the usual VAT. I will ask my friends how they did it, and the tax implications. I know that they used it for two months in Europe, and then brought the one bike back on their flight. Never asked about the paperwork ....
Grease_Monkey Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 I will ask my friends how they did it, and the tax implications. I know that they used it for two months in Europe, and then brought the one bike back on their flight. Never asked about the paperwork .... In that case they probably paid no VAT or duties on the bikes as it would be seen as a used bike/sports equipment that they were travelling with. Unless they went and declared the items - then it would be 15% VAT, 15% duty, but they would've been able to claim back the VAT they paid in Europe. ChrisF 1
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