NotSoBigBen Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 It has become the norm when out and about in a couple of East Asian countries. I suspects it will be something you will see for a long time still, even if Covid-19 passes. This is just thinking aloud about public transport/shopping and other places where you don't know the people and their health. Whereas socialising with friends and family might relax the mask wearing somewhat. And excercise/sport, there we might also see relaxation of the wearing of masks. But my gut feeling is that it will become a social pressure thing to wear a mask in public in the long term. But, maybe not. I find that difficult to comprehend, yeah I'm an old cynical sod ... I don't want nor see that as my future. Chastise and judge me all you want but just no Darrynbp, DieselnDust, gemmerbal and 1 other 4
NotSoBigBen Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 If you see it in the same vein as putting on suntan lotion what's the problem? For how long? As long as it takes. Did we create this? No, but s##t happens deal with it.No just no and I don't care what anyone thinks but it's not normal period gemmerbal and DieselnDust 2
Slowbee Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 It has become the norm when out and about in a couple of East Asian countries. I suspects it will be something you will see for a long time still, even if Covid-19 passes. This is just thinking aloud about public transport/shopping and other places where you don't know the people and their health. Whereas socialising with friends and family might relax the mask wearing somewhat. And excercise/sport, there we might also see relaxation of the wearing of masks. But my gut feeling is that it will become a social pressure thing to wear a mask in public in the long term. But, maybe not. Depends which line of the social divide you are on. The bottle stores are packed and ques a mile long. Everyone wearing masks. Ar our local petrol station, where you pick up the staff. about 1 masks in every 50 people. At the taxi rank, maybe 1 mask per 100. DieselnDust and Vetplant 2
DieselnDust Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 The locust plague reaches us from India/Pakistan. Isn't the 100yr cycle of the migration of murder hornets?? TNT1 1
River Rat Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) I find that difficult to comprehend, yeah I'm an old cynical sod ... I don't want nor see that as my future.Chastise and judge me all you want but just noIt gets harder and harder to adapt but I have news for you resistance is futile https://youtu.be/rtEaR1JU-ps Edited June 1, 2020 by River Rat
NotSoBigBen Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 It gets harder and harder to adapt but I have news for you resistance is futile https://youtu.be/rtEaR1JU-psI believe in free will and common sense, I wear a mask as required at the moment but I do not see myself wearing it forever. Just me, you do you my friend! guidodg, DieselnDust, ChrisF and 1 other 4
Ndlovu Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 Try this. I believe it still serves it's purpose (preventing spit and snot flying) and you breath a lot easier. guidodg, Dieter ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°), Myth and 1 other 4
River Rat Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 I believe in free will and common sense, I wear a mask as required at the moment but I do not see myself wearing it forever.Just me, you do you my friend!No worries, I actually believe we are going to beat this virus so it will be a temporary thing. In the meantime common sense first will suffice.
ChrisF Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 Interesting to see the different perceptions, cultures, etc in the various replies. In 2013 we were touring Botswana, and had a good laugh at some Asian tourists wearing masks while out on safari .... Going to be interesting to see how long the average SA person wears masks .... Vetplant 1
Pure Savage Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 Think its just humans, seen people driving to green belts, promenade etc. Okes waiting in ques without masks and put them on when go into the shop. Andrew Steer and Vetplant 2
LazyTrailRider Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) Interesting to see the different perceptions, cultures, etc in the various replies. Going to be interesting to see how long the average SA person wears masks .... Personally, based on what I know at this point, I expect to be wearing one in most public scenarios until at least the end of the year. Possibly even longer. Similarly, my business partner and I have agreed that we'll keep our team of 15 away from the office until 2021 at least. The air circulation configuration in the average office space effectively makes it a hard no-go. I've just spoken to a client high up in their corporate structure, they're keeping their HQ (several thousand people) down to less than 0.5% occupation for now. Edited June 1, 2020 by LazyEnduroRider MDJ, ChrisF, Andrew Steer and 2 others 5
Vetplant Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 I find that difficult to comprehend, yeah I'm an old cynical sod ... I don't want nor see that as my future. Chastise and judge me all you want but just noI have no intention to chastise. I am more interested to hear how you think this plays out over the next two years? Will we go back to our same old ways come 2021 or does some of these changes "stick"? I think stuff that will easily stay in place:-Reduced amount of staff at the offices. (What helps is reduced overheads for employers)-Mask wearing in shops, public transport-Online grocery shopping-Supporting the local small butcher and other similar SME's Things that probably won't stay the same for long:-Reduced classroom numbers (We don't have enough facilities in normal times)-The amount of people out for walkies on weekend mornings There are probably way more in each category, but those are just off the top of my head. River Rat, NickGM and LazyTrailRider 3
ChrisF Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 Personally, based on what I know at this point, I expect to be wearing one in most public scenarios until at least the end of the year. Possibly even longer. Similarly, my business partner and I have agreed that we'll keep our team of 15 away from the office until 2021 at least. The air circulation configuration in the average office space effectively makes it a hard no-go. I've just spoken to a client high up in their corporate structure, they're keeping their HQ (several thousand people) down to less than 0.5% occupation for now. Agreed, we will also we wearings masks for most of the year. Not for the sake of some regulation, but with family working in the medical field our perception is "more cautious" than some of the outspoken commentary here .... My BIL works for one of the very large financial companies. Their current planning is to work from home for at least the next three months. Only essential staff at the office. They are already starting to talk of "the new normal" ... for companies with serious office rental amounts this may well open new doors, and new ways of doing business. Our office is "open", but most staff still work from home. There is an interesting sub-dynamic though ... some admit to being more effective in office, while others are more effective from home ..... Vetplant 1
NotSoBigBen Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 I have no intention to chastise. I am more interested to hear how you think this plays out over the next two years? Will we go back to our same old ways come 2021 or does some of these changes "stick"? I think stuff that will easily stay in place:-Reduced amount of staff at the offices. (What helps is reduced overheads for employers)-Mask wearing in shops, public transport-Online grocery shopping-Supporting the local small butcher and other similar SME's Things that probably won't stay the same for long:-Reduced classroom numbers (We don't have enough facilities in normal times)-The amount of people out for walkies on weekend mornings There are probably way more in each category, but those are just off the top of my head.I agree with everything except the wearing of masks... Some may choose to continue wearing them and that is their perogative but as soon as I don't have to I won't. Let's put it in a cycling context, I ride alone often and far in remote places, I ride on the road at times in the suburbs where there's lots of traffic. Many of you say that's nuts but those are risks I'm prepared to take to live the life I want. If course I try to be as careful as possible and do nothing stupid, I also have a family that want to see me get back safe (at least I'd like to think so [emoji6]) guidodg 1
The Ouzo Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 Personally, based on what I know at this point, I expect to be wearing one in most public scenarios until at least the end of the year. Possibly even longer. Similarly, my business partner and I have agreed that we'll keep our team of 15 away from the office until 2021 at least. The air circulation configuration in the average office space effectively makes it a hard no-go. I've just spoken to a client high up in their corporate structure, they're keeping their HQ (several thousand people) down to less than 0.5% occupation for now.the company my wife works for moved into their shiny new building in march.it is effectively open air with a massive hole from roof to floor spanning all floors and the entire inside is open plan.They sent out a memo last week, max occupancy is 400 something and they will also only occupy every second floor. So please stay home if you can.
ChrisF Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 ...... Things that probably won't stay the same for long:-Reduced classroom numbers (We don't have enough facilities in normal times)....... This item has me wondering about the logistics .... We simply dont have the classrooms.We dont have enough teachers. I have to wonder how they intend teaching the matriculants in "small groups" .... even if you split them up and use other class rooms, where are the extra teachers coming from ? For this group the solution is to use the school hall, proper lecturing style ... which may be a culture shock for kids .... But what happens when the next group comes back ? Practically .... they are all going back into the same crowded class rooms ..... minus those that will be home schooled. Many schools are offering the option to run a parallel route until this plays out Vetplant 1
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