DieselnDust Posted March 22, 2022 Share 1 minute ago, Headshot said: Seems a lot tougher than last October's event. Covid honeymoon is over... interesting point... Since then we've had Omicron that seems to have had mild symptoms but often a big impact on fitness, cardiovascular response to training and fatigue. Long covid has been a thing so I wonder if there is a factor of Omicron impacting long term health and training ability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted March 22, 2022 Share 4 minutes ago, DieselnDust said: interesting point... Since then we've had Omicron that seems to have had mild symptoms but often a big impact on fitness, cardiovascular response to training and fatigue. Long covid has been a thing so I wonder if there is a factor of Omicron impacting long term health and training ability? I don't think we know what the impact is Danger Dassie, DieselnDust and Underachiever 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted March 22, 2022 Share Actually i was referring to the route being harder... I also wonder about Covid 19 but I think there is a tendency now to blame any illness on Covid, like the bug I had in January this year and the recurring tummy bugs everyone seems to be getting at the moment. DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted March 22, 2022 Share 31 minutes ago, Spafsack said: Very true D, allot of money to pay and to only do 2 stages if you lucky. Some teams will take 12 hours. It seems you really have to be ultra fit and in top form to attempt this. r50k for 24km prologue and 92km lourensford 1 = ~R450/km! M L and Fred van Vlaanderen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted March 22, 2022 Share 10 minutes ago, Headshot said: Actually i was referring to the route being harder... I also wonder about Covid 19 but I think there is a tendency now to blame any illness on Covid, like the bug I had in January this year and the recurring tummy bugs everyone seems to be getting at the moment. the route appears harder but 16900m of vert still isn't special especially when measured against 680km. At best its slightly tougher. Maybe this is the hardest start in a while? I thoght it was the toughest route since 2008 but I'm not so sure due to the reduction in climbing fro 17000 odd to 16900 comparison: 2004 785km -> 17380m^ 2005 901km -> 16020m^ 2006 921km -> 16605m^ 2007 886km -> 15045m^ 2008 966km -> 18529m^ ===================New Era for golfers 2009 685km -> 14623m^ 2010 722km -> 14635m^ 2011 707km -> 14530m^ 2012 782km -> 16300m^ (longest since 2008 but 2229 short on vert or a whole stage) 2013 704km -> 15950m^ 2014 729km -> 14850m^ 2015 748km -> 16000m^ 2016 646km -> 15050m^ 2017 695km -> 14550m^ 2018 653km -> 13530m^ 2019 630km -> 16650m^ 2021 611km -> 14900m^ 2022 681km -> 16900m^ (most vert since 2008 but way short on distance) I could probably do some math to check average speed of the winners or better would be calorie consumption but I don't have that data. its very difficult to put a tag "harder" when viewing it from the just the route data Edited March 22, 2022 by DieselnDust Trashy, Headshot and Danger Dassie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPSLICK Posted March 22, 2022 Share 25 minutes ago, Headshot said: Seems a lot tougher than last October's event. Covid honeymoon is over... so then the question of BUT HAVE YOU DONE THE EPIC YET?? changes,,,,, HAVE YOU DONE THE EPIC,,,,(not counting the soft covid version)?? Headshot and DieselnDust 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPSLICK Posted March 22, 2022 Share 4 minutes ago, Shebeen said: r50k for 24km prologue and 92km lourensford 1 = ~R450/km! if it was per gram/km we talking Colombia finest export pricing here for a DNF MORNE , Wayne pudding Mol and DieselnDust 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karma Posted March 22, 2022 Share 3 minutes ago, DIPSLICK said: if it was per gram/km we talking Colombia finest export pricing here for a DNF still better value for money than Diesel/Petrol. DieselnDust, DIPSLICK, MDJ and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trashy Posted March 22, 2022 Share 19 minutes ago, Shebeen said: r50k for 24km prologue and 92km lourensford 1 = ~R450/km! I thought my old V8 Range Rover was expensive per km...😳 Even if you complete the entire event it's R73.53/km. DIPSLICK, Fred van Vlaanderen and Wayne pudding Mol 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted March 22, 2022 Share 28 minutes ago, DieselnDust said: the route appears harder but 16900m of vert still isn't special especially when measured against 680km. At best its slightly tougher. Maybe this is the hardest start in a while? I thoght it was the toughest route since 2008 but I'm not so sure due to the reduction in climbing fro 17000 odd to 16900 comparison: 2004 785km -> 17380m^ 2005 901km -> 16020m^ 2006 921km -> 16605m^ 2007 886km -> 15045m^ 2008 966km -> 18529m^ ===================New Era for golfers 2009 685km -> 14623m^ 2010 722km -> 14635m^ 2011 707km -> 14530m^ 2012 782km -> 16300m^ (longest since 2008 but 2229 short on vert or a whole stage) 2013 704km -> 15950m^ 2014 729km -> 14850m^ 2015 748km -> 16000m^ 2016 646km -> 15050m^ 2017 695km -> 14550m^ 2018 653km -> 13530m^ 2019 630km -> 16650m^ 2021 611km -> 14900m^ 2022 681km -> 16900m^ (most vert since 2008 but way short on distance) I could probably do some math to check average speed of the winners or better would be calorie consumption but I don't have that data. its very difficult to put a tag "harder" when viewing it from the just the route data I don't care what y'all think, 2011 was the toughest 🤪 DIPSLICK, Fred van Vlaanderen and DieselnDust 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_David_ Posted March 22, 2022 Share I think heat and sunburn is a big factor as well. Difficult to train for 45 degree heat if you live in the UK / Europe. DieselnDust and Fred van Vlaanderen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted March 22, 2022 Share 7 minutes ago, NotSoBigBen said: I don't care what y'all think, 2011 was the toughest 🤪 Quote of the day 💋 Help.Me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted March 22, 2022 Share 2 minutes ago, _David_ said: I think heat and sunburn is a big factor as well. Difficult to train for 45 degree heat if you live in the UK / Europe. granted this is a constraint. recall some Dutch mates preping by converting a section of the workshop in their bike shop into a hot room and setting up their Rollers and IDT in there. 2 rides in these conditions per week for a couple of hours each and they were prepped. There are ways to solve the problem. Most okes throw the whole budget into the latest ESWoks though so theres that Underachiever, _David_ and mikkelz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted March 22, 2022 Share I think people forget that spending more money on a bike with no motor does not make you faster or more likely to finish... DieselnDust, mikkelz, Trashy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I FLY Posted March 22, 2022 Share 21 minutes ago, Trashy said: I thought my old V8 Range Rover was expensive per km...😳 Even if you complete the entire event it's R73.53/km. And that's just the entry fee. My mate kept an detailed record of everything he spent on his Epic and it was double the entry fee. mikkelz and Trashy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted March 22, 2022 Share Just now, Headshot said: I think people forget that spending more money on a bike with no motor does not make you faster or more likely to finish... i see what you did there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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