Velouria Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 and they also imported a few Germans to help out. #stravadopingspecialistsThe Americans weren't even ashamed of using that technology. They had over 200 V2s from the war that they fiddled and tinkered with. And it was Werner von Braun who essentially got the US satellite Explorer 1 into space with his whole Redstone project. While the US was taking horse steroids to improve performance, the Soviets already had a fully fledged mirco-dosing EPO program... Wannabe, Bateleur1 and Slowbee 3
Slowbee Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 And the Americans blame the Chinese for reverse engineering. Readsalot and DJR 2
Shebeen Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Analogy A And by stating that Apollo was "basically at the beginning of NASA" you're glossing over Mercury, Gemini and all the other rocket programs. Apollo was a d!ck waving contest. The US were 2-0 down to the Soviets, having lost out to Sputnik and Yuri Gagarin, and just like any guy in the local cycling group who keeps getting dropped, they threw money at the problem. They essentially walked into a Specialzed Concept store, opened the catalogue, and ordered everything without even blinking at the price. The wanted the Strava KOM on the moon, and they were not going to lose out again! Analogy B Thanks for the additional information, and completely agree about the exorbitant costs of Apollo, and although extremely high, one cannot underestimate the scientific, technological and social benefits of the Apollo program. I'm also fully aware of the Mercury Program that preceded Apollo, but as far I as I understand this basically became a support program to Apollo (although not initially so as it ran for 3 years before Apollo was announced), and particularly Gemini, which was established after Kennedy announced a mission to the moon. I think both Gemini and Apollo were established in '61, with Gemini established to develop the flight capabilities for Apollo. Gemini and Mercury were the support acts, Apollo was the main concert. analogy A WINS! Velouria and Piston ZA 2
Piston ZA Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Analogy A Analogy B analogy A WINS!Ha ha, it does. I should've brought bikes and/or d!cks into mine Velouria 1
tracknut Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Ha ha, it does. I should've brought bikes and/or d!cks into mine Still don't explain the flag waving in the "breeze"
shova1 Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 nathrix, Long Wheel Base, Hairy and 5 others 8
Robbie Stewart Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 Bundesarchiv_Bild_141-1880,_Peenemünde,_Start_einer_V2.jpgIt started in Europe : http://museum-peenemuende.de/the-museum/ausstellungen/?lang=en This is the website for the Peenemunde site where Hitler initiated the V2 rocket program, which was captured by the US at the end of the war. The scientific advancements made by the Nazis were not lost on the U.S., and they helped some of the leading scientists to defect to the US mainland in exchange for sharing their knowledge, which eventually helped NASA become what it is today. The novel, Space, by James A. Michener is also a very good read in this regard, as it tells the story from a historically accurate point of view. I read it as a teen, and I am tempted to read it again after all this. deanbean, DJR and MTBeer 3
Rata-tat-tat Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUyU3lKzoioThat company scares me.
Rapunzel Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 27658099_1526316290809318_3568437438224235094_n.jpg I am not as impressed by the distance through Africa he has covered (1500km) or the time he's been at it (more than 1.5 years) as I am by the choice of cycling shoe... This pappie (Viktor Surin) is now entering the desert region of Western Cape from the relative greenery of the Namib, give him a shout out if you spot him he's very serious about protecting his rear derailleur!
Shebeen Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 http://museum-peenemuende.de/the-museum/ausstellungen/?lang=en This is the website for the Peenemunde site where Hitler initiated the V2 rocket program, which was captured by the US at the end of the war. The scientific advancements made by the Nazis were not lost on the U.S., and they helped some of the leading scientists to defect to the US mainland in exchange for sharing their knowledge, which eventually helped NASA become what it is today. peenemuende_das_museum_austellungen_010-1024x683.jpg The novel, Space, by James A. Michener is also a very good read in this regard, as it tells the story from a historically accurate point of view. I read it as a teen, and I am tempted to read it again after all this. Space.jpgawesome, i will go look for that book. should be in the library. I was blown away by the science museum in Munich. those germans invented pretty much everything. here is the V2 in the opening hallway (i know you can see them elsewhere, but it's more impressive in its homeland for some reason)http://www.deutsches-museum.de/typo3temp/pics/aa002ff28f.jpg Milkman, DJR, Kalahari Vegmot and 1 other 4
Eldron Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 That company scares me.Agreed. I can hear the opening theme tune to The Terminator In my head as that video plays... Bateleur1 and Spoke101 2
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