Bikes for Enduro... The restart

[Pieter1]

So keen to hear what it's like when you get it. I was inches from pulling the trigger on one about a week ago and still super keen but trying to be a bit sensible and check some reviews.

So far, from the fb fan page it seems SOLID!! I can’t wait!!

[Pieter1]

Damn!! They must be lank busy!!

Ja dude. Word on the street is they have hired two more guys so lets see.

But I’m probably way back in the line so I’ll have to be patient.

Edited May 28, 2019 by Pieter1

[Sparky and the Warden]

yeah, they can try put whatever bs spin on those linkage design, in the end of the day it's just an unnecessary/useless design to get past the spez patent.

Can you elaborate? Not really sure how they are similar...

[stefmeister]

Can you elaborate? Not really sure how they are similar...

It’s essentially a horst link design, but they circumvented the patent rights by adding the so-called 4 by linkage between the seatstay and the rocker link. Specialized owns the patent to the horst link design and you’d have to pay royalties to them if you wanted to use it. Well up until its recent patent expiry. That extra linkage in the Knolly serves no other purpose, unless you want to believe their marketing bs and are a fan of unnecessary added complexity and weight.

[Eddy Gordo]

So keen to hear what it's like when you get it. I was inches from pulling the trigger on one about a week ago and still super keen but trying to be a bit sensible and check some reviews. 

They are awesome, I am loving mine although its the alloy version. 

[Sparky and the Warden]

It’s essentially a horst link design, but they circumvented the patent rights by adding the so-called 4 by linkage between the seatstay and the rocker link. Specialized owns the patent to the horst link design and you’d have to pay royalties to them if you wanted to use it. Well up until its recent patent expiry. That extra linkage in the Knolly serves no other purpose, unless you want to believe their marketing bs and are a fan of unnecessary added complexity and weight.

Hmm I see what you mean... Although they have different shock arrangements, surely that makes some sort of difference in terms of performance? I would like to see one of those moving diagrams that show the rear wheel path of both setups... I'd be interested to see how different they are or whether it's pretty much same same but different

[Headshot]

So far, from the fb fan page it seems SOLID!! I can’t wait!!

Geometron? 

[Dirt Tracker]

Hahaha! Thanks!

 

 

[Capricorn]

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Edited May 29, 2019 by Capricorn

[Pieter1]

Geometron?

No, going to get a GG Megatrail.

[Hairy]

 

 

 

 

[stefmeister]

 

 

 

 

Holy crap. Does that crank/pedal even clear the shock?  This just looks like a bad idea.

[Dirt Tracker]

Holy crap. Does that crank/pedal even clear the shock?  This just looks like a bad idea.

 

It does doesn't it but, hell, I want that so bad. Titanium dualie. Drool worthy and left field ideas, what's not to like. What's the travel? 

[patham]

Holy crap. Does that crank/pedal even clear the shock?  This just looks like a bad idea.

 

There are some pinch points and injuries just waiting to happen....

[stefmeister]

It does doesn't it but, hell, I want that so bad. Titanium dualie. Drool worthy and left field ideas, what's not to like. What's the travel? 

Looks wise it's rather neat. But that shock offset looks pretty extreme, and I'd imagine some ankle rub would be a problem. I've read of numerous complaints about the Orbea rallon's shock that's in the way, and the offset is not nearly as bad. Also, those unsupported mounting bolts on the shock is interesting.

[Dirt Tracker]

Looks wise it's rather neat. But that shock offset looks pretty extreme, and I'd imagine some ankle rub would be a problem. I've read of numerous complaints about the Orbea rallon's shock that's in the way, and the offset is not nearly as bad. Also, those unsupported mounting bolts on the shock is interesting.

 

I know, that coil is looking to snare some bark from my chunky monkey calfs. I was trying to see if the offset was pushed back in any way but doesn't look like it. Either way it is prolly going to cost too mucho euro and way out of my reach so the search for a Ti hooligan hard tail will have to do. 

Edited June 12, 2019 by Dirt Tracker