Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[Jackes]

And the same method worked just as well for so many of our local running greats. Bruce Fordyce, Jackie Mekler, Alan Robb, Wally Hayward etc etc. consistency. focus on the basics and enjoyment are key. Not gadgets.

 

Fast forward to 58:50...   

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Nuww3bmKU

[dave303e]

And the same method worked just as well for so many of our local running greats. Bruce Fordyce, Jackie Mekler, Alan Robb, Wally Hayward etc etc. (edit. of course all the modern technology wasn't around then but if it were would they see much better results? I'm leaning towards a no).

consistency. focus on the basics and enjoyment are key. Not gadgets.

 

There would have been better performances.

 

From my side watching pace/power/HR ratios you can often pick up when body is tired and needs a break and often an extra easy run or skipping a run on those days saves you getting sick or getting injured.

 

Tracking heart rate through the night is also a great way to see if you getting sick and you can often catch it early and cut the recovery time which then leads to better long term performances.

[Frosty]

Fast forward to 58:50...

Every time someone says ride/run for the fun of it, makes me think of this:

https://youtu.be/O6SEXp3-lo8

[Andrew Steer]

Yoh... I've been thinking about it and for me it's just another black hole of data and wizardry that I can probably do without.

 

If I was still pushing sub3 marathons I can imagine it's a fantastic tool, but for an average Joe like me it's a lot of stuff to obsess over where the simple answer is 'consistency'.

 

Maybe I'm lucky, but I grew up using a stop watch, lamp posts and a little black book. That combo has held me in pretty good stead up till now and while I have seriously considered the Pod after this chat, will walk away and keep ticking over.

 

Foot loose and fancy free, or as some would say, a luddite.

Point well made, but I feel it's very important to call you out on this giant bit of BS in bold    

[Christie]

Im not a fan of getting more data during my rums. Im a social competitive runner, I prefer to look at the scenery and talk to people rather than the watch - I did not even measure HR till recently. I run on RPE, but I do glance at pace during road events every 5km or so, to see +_- how it is going. For trail events I just run - Watching numbers on a screen will kill my enjoyment, and on trails it can be dangerous, too.

[Chris_]

Im not a fan of getting more data during my rums. Im a social competitive runner, I prefer to look at the scenery and talk to people rather than the watch - I did not even measure HR till recently. I run on RPE, but I do glance at pace during road events every 5km or so, to see +_- how it is going. For trail events I just run - Watching numbers on a screen will kill my enjoyment, and on trails it can be dangerous, too.

 

Funnily enough we were saying something along these lines just yesterday. My wife and I (and every other single f$*ing Gauteng'er) went to Hennops to hit a little trail run for the first time since lockdown began. Half way through my wife says during the last month she was starting to think maybe road running isn't so bad, but then the second we stepped on the trails again everything changed. Theres something so amazing to just run around nature without a care for speed or anything in the world. Road running seems to always to move towards times and goals and urgency and data.

 

It was a good reset. 

[Jewbacca]

Point well made, but I feel it's very important to call you out on this giant bit of BS in bold    

hahahahaha

 

Dunno, I still see myself as pretty average. I have good days and bad days and sometimes really bad days.... 

[Geared]

Funnily enough we were saying something along these lines just yesterday. My wife and I (and every other single f$*ing Gauteng'er) went to Hennops to hit a little trail run for the first time since lockdown began. Half way through my wife says during the last month she was starting to think maybe road running isn't so bad, but then the second we stepped on the trails again everything changed. Theres something so amazing to just run around nature without a care for speed or anything in the world. Road running seems to always to move towards times and goals and urgency and data.

 

It was a good reset. 

 

 

Hahaha we went through yesterday and did the mountain bike trail, when we arrived I thought we had arrived at a Justin Bieber concert....... 

[jdwet1980]

Fast forward to 58:50...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Nuww3bmKU

No, Alberto won Nick because he's a lowlife cheater.

[Vetplant]

No, Alberto won Nick because he's a lowlife cheater.

Interesting, please share. Never heard the story, apart from what Bruce told...

[Iron]

For those of you who know the gravel road that heads out from Tiffindell left towards Lesotho ,

im embarrassed to say there is a bolder with my name on it and i now only own one very nice left arm warmer .

 

these experiences are as follows  :

 

those it has happened too

and those its going to happen too

[Chris_]

For those of you who know the gravel road that heads out from Tiffindell left towards Lesotho ,

im embarrassed to say there is a bolder with my name on it and i now only own one very nice left arm warmer .

 

these experiences are as follows  :

 

those it has happened too

and those its going to happen too

 

Aron Ralston?

[Stretch]

Interesting, please share. Never heard the story, apart from what Bruce told...

I think he saying that he beat Nick because he was more than likely doped up to the eyeballs. Very likely to be honest. Edited June 30, 2020 by Stretch

[Stevief]

For those of you who know the gravel road that heads out from Tiffindell left towards Lesotho ,

im embarrassed to say there is a bolder with my name on it and i now only own one very nice left arm warmer .

 

these experiences are as follows  :

 

those it has happened too

and those its going to happen too

Hey thats my MTB line!!

 

2 Types of mountain bikers in this world.

Those that crash

Those that are going to crash.

[Andymann]

And the same method worked just as well for so many of our local running greats. Bruce Fordyce, Jackie Mekler, Alan Robb, Wally Hayward etc etc. (edit. of course all the modern technology wasn't around then but if it were would they see much better results? I'm leaning towards a no).

consistency. focus on the basics and enjoyment are key. Not gadgets.

 

If you read Iron War, Mark Allen attributes his success at Kona to using a little known tool at the time called a heartrate monitor.  While Dave Scott was all about flat out training and racing, Mark Allen was more scientific and kept his training to within the correct HR zones.  It's a brilliant read.

[Andrew Steer]

I think he saying that he beat Nick because he was more than likely doped up to the eyeballs. Very likely to be honest.

And Nick was clean of course...