Dopers suck

[kingalton]

  On 2/11/2022 at 7:37 AM, mecheng89 said:

IMHO, that joke went over my head. 

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 Old movie 🙂

[Jewbacca]

  On 2/11/2022 at 7:36 AM, mecheng89 said:

At least the IOC and FIFA don't ruin entire nations and their economies. 

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I think you will find they are both pretty guilty in doing just that..... Also ruining small businesses, entire areas within host cities/countries and leaving a swathe of unreconciled debt and massive economic holes to fill. 

I think, if you look at the last few events on both rosters you will find quite a few were hosted in places that couldn't afford it, had to establish massive white elephant infrastructure, were dubious decisions to say the least AND in countries where dubious business practice within the private and government sector is rife..... The 2 kind of go hand in hand

 

[splat]

  On 2/11/2022 at 7:37 AM, mecheng89 said:

IMHO, that joke went over my head. 

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She is 15 years old

Edit: I didn't know about figure skating vs finger painting either

Edited February 11, 2022 by splat

[Danger Dassie]

  On 2/11/2022 at 7:36 AM, mecheng89 said:

At least the IOC and FIFA don't ruin entire nations and their economies. 

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Take a look at Sochi and Brazil Olympics.

Even here with SWC 2010, Fifa undermined a lot of legislation and are well known for their nepotism, inbound/outbound tourism operations for example. Kind of funny how our own locals outdid them though, Tourvest put on an exceptional operation, against the odds.

[lechatnoir]

  On 2/11/2022 at 6:26 AM, Jewbacca said:

So, ban Russia from the Olymics for running a coordinated PED scheme for athletes across the board..... Then invite them to the Olympics under the OC flag.

This was only ever going to end one way.

Why ban them in the first place? Why re-invite them?

The Olympics is such a farce. How can a doper be allowed to compete? Vinokourov coming back to win gold in 2012 grates me. 

Surely if you are caught doping you get banned from the olympics for life? Or is the Olympic Spirit flag only relevant when it involves people who suck and get slow clapped because they need the smaller nations to buy in and send athletes with absolutely no chance of winning?

The Olympics should just die. It's ethics are so skewed, both in who is competing, how it is run/set up and who earns all the money.

FIFA and the IOC are filthy. They make the Guptas and our government look like small change chumps

 

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one word - money

But really... a Russian testing positive? Well, I never!!

[Andrew Steer]

  On 2/11/2022 at 8:31 AM, lechatnoir said:

one word - money

But really... a Russian testing positive? Well, I never!!

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Let's stop Russian to conclusions

[Danger Dassie]

Professor Tucker nails it.

 

[Danger Dassie]

And this, so on point, and very much relevant to this thread.

 

[Pieter-za]

Anybody read Guns & Needles written by Clinton van der Berg re doping in SA sport?

[jcza]

We should just be thankful that cycling at the highest level is clean now. Not a single case in 2021. 

 

[Yyyy]

  On 2/11/2022 at 7:50 AM, kingalton said:

 Old movie 🙂

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"Are they going to make you shave your legs"

I felt that

[Andrew Steer]

  On 2/11/2022 at 10:28 AM, jcza said:

We should just be thankful that cycling at the highest level is clean now. Not a single case in 2021. 

 

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Amen... they're all clean, it's a miracle! Praise baby jesus

Luckily all the reformed dopers still intricately involved with all the teams and in control of most of the licenses, sponsors etc are there to show all the kids how to keep it clean. 

#NextGenDejaVuForTheWin

[Skubarra]

 

  On 2/11/2022 at 12:09 PM, Andrew Steer said:

Amen... they're all clean, it's a miracle! Praise baby jesus

Luckily all the reformed dopers still intricately involved with all the teams and in control of most of the licenses, sponsors etc are there to show all the kids how to keep it clean. 

#NextGenDejaVuForTheWin

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Serious question - who are the past dopers who are still closely involved in racing teams and in control of licenses and sponsors?

Yolande de Villiers & Nolan Hoffman jump to mind but I'm struggling to name others?

[shaper]

  On 2/11/2022 at 12:18 PM, Skubarra said:

 

Serious question - who are the past dopers who are still closely involved in racing teams and in control of licenses and sponsors?

Yolande de Villiers & Nolan Hoffman jump to mind but I'm struggling to name others?

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Here is one https://www.cyclist.co.uk/news/9976/alexander-vinokourov-is-back-at-astana-for-2022

[jcza]

  On 2/11/2022 at 12:18 PM, Skubarra said:

 

Serious question - who are the past dopers who are still closely involved in racing teams and in control of licenses and sponsors?

Yolande de Villiers & Nolan Hoffman jump to mind but I'm struggling to name others?

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List must be very long. 

Kreuzinger

Basso

Contador

Vino

Vaughters

 

[Skubarra]

  On 2/11/2022 at 12:33 PM, jcza said:

List must be very long. 

Kreuzinger

Basso

Contador

Vino

Vaughters

 

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  On 2/11/2022 at 12:25 PM, shaper said:

Here is one https://www.cyclist.co.uk/news/9976/alexander-vinokourov-is-back-at-astana-for-2022

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Sorry - should be more specific - thinking about the local SA scene