The Veganism Thread

[100Tours]

You are right, and this thread has lead me to earless meat, a lot less. Full veggie is on the horizon.

 

But if you cannot see the dual account trolling happening here then what’s the point?

 

Even without ears Patch, it's still meat :-D

 

In the spirit of saving the whole cow however - I'm eating a lot more lentils. and 2 particular dishes have been stand out good..

 

lemon lentils - 

baby spinach, tin lentils, zest of a small lemon (finely cut), teaspoon of soy sauce.

In a pan - Wilt spinach (low temperature with a little oil and a splash of water), add lemon zest, drain lentils and add to pan. season with soy. Was really tasty with the lemony bits added, works well as an accompaniment on the plate.

 

red curry lentils - 

red curry paste

tin of coconut milk or cream

slice of galangal or ginger

bay leaf or lime leaf

dried

diced butternut

tin of lentils

 

fry 2 tablespoons of red curry paste in a little coconut cream or coconut milk. add in a slice of galangal or ginger and a bay leaf or a thai lime leaf, a dried chilli too if you want to heat it up. add diced butternut and the rest of the coconut cream until the butternut is cooked through (add a little water from the lentils if required). Drain lentils, add to pot and heat through. serve with rice.

(not quite vegan because there is fish sauce in the red curry paste - I've never seen that offered in a vegan variety, but pretty close)

 

Eat first, we can fight later if you're still in the mood.

[Patchelicious]

What has really helped us eat less meat is Gousto meals. They have some incredible meat free recipes, and cost effective too.

 

We spend about £35 a week on 4 dinners for my wife and myself.

[Wayne Potgieter]

Even without ears Patch, it's still meat :-D

 

In the spirit of saving the whole cow however - I'm eating a lot more lentils. and 2 particular dishes have been stand out good..

 

lemon lentils -

baby spinach, tin lentils, zest of a small lemon (finely cut), teaspoon of soy sauce.

In a pan - Wilt spinach (low temperature with a little oil and a splash of water), add lemon zest, drain lentils and add to pan. season with soy. Was really tasty with the lemony bits added, works well as an accompaniment on the plate.

 

red curry lentils -

red curry paste

tin of coconut milk or cream

slice of galangal or ginger

bay leaf or lime leaf

dried

diced butternut

tin of lentils

 

fry 2 tablespoons of red curry paste in a little coconut cream or coconut milk. add in a slice of galangal or ginger and a bay leaf or a thai lime leaf, a dried chilli too if you want to heat it up. add diced butternut and the rest of the coconut cream until the butternut is cooked through (add a little water from the lentils if required). Drain lentils, add to pot and heat through. serve with rice.

(not quite vegan because there is fish sauce in the red curry paste - I've never seen that offered in a vegan variety, but pretty close)

 

Eat first, we can fight later if you're still in the mood.

Try see if you can find this brand.

 

https://www.thecrueltyfreeshop.co.nz/vegan-curry-paste

[Mojoman]

Tried Spar's vegetarian burgers last night....don't bother....even my dogs thought twice about eating them and they think cat crap is a treat....!

[Hairy]

What has really helped us eat less meat is Gousto meals. They have some incredible meat free recipes, and cost effective too.

 

We spend about £35 a week on 4 dinners for my wife and myself.

how is the variety over there vs what one can find in SA?

[100Tours]

Try see if you can find this brand.

 

https://www.thecrueltyfreeshop.co.nz/vegan-curry-paste

 

makes sense - they're replaced the fish sauce with salt in their formulation.

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I'm in the camp of Patch here though (the patch of Patch?) - happy to reduce meat but not really aiming for complete elimination.

[Quagga]

It makes sense though right? The number one killer in 1st world countries is Cardiovascular disease and diabetes. And the only scientifically proven cure for those issues is a whole food, plant based diet. So my take is that, this message is getting out there and people are willing to give it a try. It's super encouraging.

 

Can you imagine how much load gets taken off of your health care system if people just change their diet. Individuals win - Countries win - Animals win. Win - Win - Win. What's not to like.

Where did you get info on this .> scientifically proven cure for those issues is a whole food,

 

WRT it being a win for animals, what do you think happens to all the animals that are not seen when a piece of land is used to grow food for humans?

The worms, rats, snakes etc ?

Or do you only see the animals people eat as animals?

[Wayne Potgieter]

Where did you get info on this .> scientifically proven cure for those issues is a whole food,

 

WRT it being a win for animals, what do you think happens to all the animals that are not seen when a piece of land is used to grow food for humans?

The worms, rats, snakes etc ?

Or do you only see the animals people eat as animals?

 

Id like a try at answering the second one.

 

The theory is that animal agriculture takes up WAY more land than plant agriculture. By reducing livestock land, we get back more veggie land than is necessary and thus the nett effect is more places for wild indigenous animals.

 

There are some theories floating around that the current land allocated for growing plant crops are already sufficient to supply the entire human population with edible plants already .

 

I will try find some good sources (google scholar type stuff) when I am in front of a computer. on a mobile at he moment.

[Imploder]

Where did you get info on this .> scientifically proven cure for those issues is a whole food,

 

WRT it being a win for animals, what do you think happens to all the animals that are not seen when a piece of land is used to grow food for humans?

The worms, rats, snakes etc ?

Or do you only see the animals people eat as animals?

 

There are a number of studies done on this:

1) The China Study

2) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10496449

3) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5971679/#r51

4) https://www.nature.com/articles/nutd20173

 

Definitely all animals are animals, but I doubt the snakes, rats and worms are being slaughtered by the billions. I was referring to the poor guys in over filled pens, standing in their own waste etc. pumped full of antibiotics and hormones, who's only solace is to land up on the end of meat hook. 

[Wayne pudding Mol]

Tried Spar's vegetarian burgers last night....don't bother....even my dogs thought twice about eating them and they think cat crap is a treat....!

checkers "simple truth" make decent ones

[Rocket-Boy]

I know theres a lot of people who eats meat that don't take pills. But my point is just supplementation isn't just a vegan thing.

You need to pay more attention in school, it will help you to string a coherent sentence together.

[Wayne Potgieter]

all this talk of supplementation...

 

Been plant based for nearing three years now. Have a blood test done every year  (last one was a few weeks ago) and have zero deficiencies.

 

The ONLY thing i do is use a B12 fortified soy milk in my coffee.

 

Thats hardly having to swallow mouthfulls of pills. Sure, its not entirely natural, but neither is the antibiotics and hormones given to livestock. so I am happy to accept that small action. 

[GrahamS2]

There are a number of studies done on this:

1) The China Study

2) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10496449

3) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5971679/#r51

4) https://www.nature.com/articles/nutd20173

 

Definitely all animals are animals, but I doubt the snakes, rats and worms are being slaughtered by the billions. I was referring to the poor guys in over filled pens, standing in their own waste etc. pumped full of antibiotics and hormones, who's only solace is to land up on the end of meat hook. 

Post No. 15 in this very thread discussed the China Study, and why you shouldn't take it too seriously. 

[Imploder]

Post No. 15 in this very thread discussed the China Study, and why you shouldn't take it too seriously. 

 

For other studies check these out:

 

 

Post 19

[Patchelicious]

That stat I posted about the line of chickens circling the world 6 times for Super Bowl Sunday, waiting to be killed has been weighing on me. So I made the decision today to try and give up cow, bird and varkie. 

 

I like steak, a lot, so it is going to be tough, but I think my conscience has started outweighing my taste buds.

[MTBeer]

That stat I posted about the line of chickens circling the world 6 times for Super Bowl Sunday, waiting to be killed has been weighing on me. So I made the decision today to try and give up cow, bird and varkie. 

 

I like steak, a lot, so it is going to be tough, but I think my conscience has started outweighing my taste buds.

Fish have feelings too...