Hairy Posted September 22, 2021 Share 51 minutes ago, Mountain Bru said: After reading through this thread, I've concluded that bikehub should be rebranded to "Engineers on Bicycles".... Not even being sarcastic. It seems 80% of the guys on here have some kind of engineering background. We need the marketing guys to come up with a better name than Engineers on Bicycles Trashy, Mountain Bru, ChrisF and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted September 22, 2021 Share 25 minutes ago, Hairy said: We need the marketing guys to come up with a better name than Engineers on Bicycles In fact, we have architectural stylists, engineers, project managers, etc on here .... Least these small time manufacturers can do is ask for our specialist input. Really need Comic Sans font on Android Hairy, Mountain Bru and Eddy Gordo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasilvarsa Posted September 22, 2021 Share Where is The Factory that Makes these Bike Frames ? Edited September 22, 2021 by dasilvarsa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trashy Posted September 22, 2021 Share 14 minutes ago, dasilvarsa said: Where is The Factory that Makes these Bike Frames ? My guess is they are made in Taiwan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinafrika Posted September 22, 2021 Share 5 minutes ago, Trashy said: My guess is they are made in Taiwan. Correct, Taiwan it is. Edit: As personally told from the proverbial horse’s mouth. Edited September 22, 2021 by justinafrika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Hansen Posted September 22, 2021 Share 2 hours ago, Mountain Bru said: After reading through this thread, I've concluded that bikehub should be rebranded to "Engineers on Bicycles".... Not even being sarcastic. It seems 80% of the guys on here have some kind of engineering background. I am a software engineer. Not sure that counts ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted September 22, 2021 Share 5 minutes ago, Rolf Hansen said: I am a software engineer. Not sure that counts ???? somebody needs to make the tea and coffee CobusV, Mountain Bru, Rolf Hansen and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted September 22, 2021 Share 9 minutes ago, Rolf Hansen said: I am a software engineer. Not sure that counts ???? So you are working on the development of the wireless brakes .... Project CLEAN cockpit ... Hairy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Bru Posted September 22, 2021 Share 3 hours ago, Rolf Hansen said: I am a software engineer. Not sure that counts ???? As long as you're not an industrial ""engineer"".... Edited September 22, 2021 by Mountain Bru Realized the "" "" was necessary Hairy, ChrisF, Christie and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoman Posted September 23, 2021 Share What winds me up the most is messing me around for payment and simple answers from TWT. 2 Weeks now....Thats a South African attitude all right! Momsen lol... Edited September 23, 2021 by Mojoman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ouzo Posted September 23, 2021 Share 13 hours ago, ChrisF said: In fact, we have architectural stylists, engineers, project managers, etc on here .... Least these small time manufacturers can do is ask for our specialist input. Really need Comic Sans font on Android I realise your post was mostly in jest, but the bold bit is an important part of why NCR chit chat was so informative gerriemtb, Mountain Bru, ChrisF and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted September 23, 2021 Share 7 minutes ago, ouzo said: I realise your post was mostly in jest, but the bold bit is an important part of why NCR chit chat was so informative I disagree.. Being a specialist in one field doesn't always translate into other specialized fields. Designing a 25000 seater stadium out of system scaffolding that can survive multiple earth quakes doesn't make one in any way qualified to comment on bike design with the same authority. Much like a web designer or software engineer cannot start picking apart another platform without seeing the flow charts and data. I think THAT is what happens here. People use their knowledge to make massive assumptions with the authority of a qualification without being privy to all the relevant and important data. That's just me. I think a lot of why people are starting to find this particular site 'boring' is because a lot of the current locals spend a majority of their time whinging about the same stuff on repeat, which means any interesting threads that do pop up land up being ignored or very quickly turned into the same whinge fest. I'm not pointing fingers, I think we are all somewhat guilty, some more than others. This kills discussions and the weight of opinion makes it difficult for people who might have valuable input to comment. I dunno, It's just a trend I've started to notice. Look at me, whinging about people whinging!!! ???? Trashy, Chadvdw67, Headshot and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ouzo Posted September 23, 2021 Share 1 minute ago, Jewbacca said: I disagree.. Being a specialist in one field doesn't always translate into other specialized fields. Designing a 25000 seater stadium out of system scaffolding that can survive multiple earth quakes doesn't make one in any way qualified to comment on bike design with the same authority. Much like a web designer or software engineer cannot start picking apart another platform without seeing the flow charts and data. I think THAT is what happens here. People use their knowledge to make massive assumptions with the authority of a qualification without being privy to all the relevant and important data. That's just me. I think a lot of why people are starting to find this particular site 'boring' is because a lot of the current locals spend a majority of their time whinging about the same stuff on repeat, which means any interesting threads that do pop up land up being ignored or very quickly turned into the same whinge fest. I'm not pointing fingers, I think we are all somewhat guilty, some more than others. This kills discussions and the weight of opinion makes it difficult for people who might have valuable input to comment. I dunno, It's just a trend I've started to notice. Look at me, whinging about people whinging!!! ???? you're not completely off the mark, but I do feel that having someone with some kind of background in the subject being discussed is much more informative than having keyboard ninjas thumbsucking or worse, using google doctor, weighing in. The problem comes in with trying to distinguish between the two. On the corona thread, before it turned into a mudsling, we had actual medical professionals weighing in, at a time of much misinformation and uncertainty it was nice to have some "inside" knowledge. Eddy Gordo, Hairy and Danger Dassie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoman Posted September 23, 2021 Share Lol...the attitude of Momsen/TWT ) is just shocking....I must wait until they get that POS back to PE! Maybe they think I want to keep a broken frame...???? R10 says this AL129 Grey in colour will be floating around the classifieds soon....(if you see one check the seat stay/seat post area!) Wouldnt suprise me in the least if I dont get get paid out... Thanks for the email. The refund request has already been sent through to our accounts department. As soon as the frame arrives in our PE Warehouse the refund will be processed. Update from Kargo National Couriers with regards to collection below. As below, by the time this collection was allocated to the driver yesterday he had already gone past this area so he will collect today. I will let you know when it has been collected Edited September 23, 2021 by Mojoman Danger Dassie and Jewbacca 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted September 23, 2021 Share 1 hour ago, ouzo said: I realise your post was mostly in jest, but the bold bit is an important part of why NCR chit chat was so informative Having specialists from all different spheres of live gathering around two wheels create a perfect networking opportunity. As you mentioned, for those that wanted to learn there was expert input on the C-19 thread. Same for so many other NCR threads .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Bru Posted September 23, 2021 Share 3 hours ago, Jewbacca said: I disagree.. Being a specialist in one field doesn't always translate into other specialized fields. Designing a 25000 seater stadium out of system scaffolding that can survive multiple earth quakes doesn't make one in any way qualified to comment on bike design with the same authority. Much like a web designer or software engineer cannot start picking apart another platform without seeing the flow charts and data. I think THAT is what happens here. People use their knowledge to make massive assumptions with the authority of a qualification without being privy to all the relevant and important data. That's just me. I think a lot of why people are starting to find this particular site 'boring' is because a lot of the current locals spend a majority of their time whinging about the same stuff on repeat, which means any interesting threads that do pop up land up being ignored or very quickly turned into the same whinge fest. I'm not pointing fingers, I think we are all somewhat guilty, some more than others. This kills discussions and the weight of opinion makes it difficult for people who might have valuable input to comment. I dunno, It's just a trend I've started to notice. Look at me, whinging about people whinging!!! ???? Clearly someone isn't an engineer..... ???? But I do agree. Being an expert in one thing in no way suggests you're competent at anything else. I'll never forget at a engineering conference a few years ago where Pat Morewood spoke about how he designs bike frames. It was quite a techy conference, so all the other talks had been on complex ways to use software in design, and then Mr Morewood got up and his answer to "how do you design bikes" was basically "I draw it on a piece of paper, and then we make a prototype, and then I sit on the bike and decide if I like how it feels". There was audible confusion amongst the group of engineers that are used to analyzing everything to death. Such a good example of how being a "analysis expert" in no way means you're good at sitting on a bike and deciding if the geometry is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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