Open Letter To Strava

[shaper]

4 minutes ago, ChrisF said:

 

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2024/11/stravas-changes-to-kill-off-apps.html

 

 

It is a long read.

 

Scroll halfway down, where DC adds and discuss the fact that Strava is steadfast in their aim to lock out other apps.

 

 

It is scary that almost only Garmin owners can carry on on their own, and directly to some of the other apps.  I did not realise how much of the market built their model onto Strava only ....

There a few other apps like fitnesssyncer https://www.fitnesssyncer.com/about/ or Tapiriik https://tapiriik.com/, else you can set up free accounts on Trainingpeaks, Final Surge or intervals.icu to have all your data as they work with most fitness devices and have the potential to sync to other platforms

[lechatnoir]

26 minutes ago, ChrisF said:

 

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2024/11/stravas-changes-to-kill-off-apps.html

 

 

It is a long read.

 

Scroll halfway down, where DC adds and discuss the fact that Strava is steadfast in their aim to lock out other apps.

 

 

It is scary that almost only Garmin owners can carry on on their own, and directly to some of the other apps.  I did not realise how much of the market built their model onto Strava only ....

The story of the big bad wolf comes to mind... and now, we have the huffing and puffing.

another story that comes to mind is that of the golden-egg goose. how many swings of the hatchet does Strava need? I mean, they've been hacking and hacking for some time now. 

Then again, building your 'everything' on Strava reminds me of 2 out of 3 piggies.

Imagine if Garmin had seamless integration into their ecosystem...?

[ChrisF]

14 minutes ago, shaper said:

There a few other apps like fitnesssyncer https://www.fitnesssyncer.com/about/ or Tapiriik https://tapiriik.com/, else you can set up free accounts on Trainingpeaks, Final Surge or intervals.icu to have all your data as they work with most fitness devices and have the potential to sync to other platforms

 

From DC Rainmaker it sounds like very few devices can load to anything but Strava.

 

Or, devices like Polar has limited platforms, without the ability to further export ....

 

Sounds like some serious headscratching for the role players.

 

 

 

Thankful that Garmin Connect satisfies my limited needs.

[Frosty]

Interestingly, TrainingPeaks has close to, or just over, 100 devices that can link to their system. Strava isn’t on their list.

[shaper]

6 minutes ago, ChrisF said:

 

From DC Rainmaker it sounds like very few devices can load to anything but Strava.

 

Or, devices like Polar has limited platforms, without the ability to further export ....

 

Sounds like some serious headscratching for the role players.

 

 

 

Thankful that Garmin Connect satisfies my limited needs.

It's more to do with the watches like samsung, amazefit, google etc and then onwards to other platforms via strava rather than the major players of Garmin, Apple, Suunto & Polar that can go directly to the likes of Trainingpeaks etc. Trainingpeaks you can see the list of devices https://www.trainingpeaks.com/upload/

[Shebeen]

1 hour ago, lechatnoir said:

The story of the big bad wolf comes to mind... and now, we have the huffing and puffing.

another story that comes to mind is that of the golden-egg goose. how many swings of the hatchet does Strava need? I mean, they've been hacking and hacking for some time now. 

Then again, building your 'everything' on Strava reminds me of 2 out of 3 piggies.

Imagine if Garmin had seamless integration into their ecosystem...?

It seems like they have got this wrong again.

You can't build another Strava easily, they should do everything to keep themselves as the only game in town for fitness data.

So what is 3rd party apps are leaning on their systems and making decent money, start offering their functionality and do it better.

 

 

[Robbie Stewart]

At least ProBikeGarage can still update from the API. That's the only real reason I use Strava, to log miles on my bikes and components to know service intervals and what was done last, when, by whom, on what etc.

I updated to the Pro Subscription shortly before I purchased my Garmin, so I'm not sure I'll be renewing when it expires next year.

Edited Wednesday at 04:48 PM by Robbie Stewart

[Underachiever]

3 hours ago, ChrisF said:

 

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2024/11/stravas-changes-to-kill-off-apps.html

 

 

It is a long read.

 

Scroll halfway down, where DC adds and discuss the fact that Strava is steadfast in their aim to lock out other apps.

 

 

It is scary that almost only Garmin owners can carry on on their own, and directly to some of the other apps.  I did not realise how much of the market built their model onto Strava only ....

My Garmin account directly linked to Intervals.icu and not via Strava.

Suddenly, Intervals.icu not pulling in my most recent (today) activity.  I hope it's just a glitch!!! 

[Frosty]

31 minutes ago, Underachiever said:

My Garmin account directly linked to Intervals.icu and not via Strava.

Suddenly, Intervals.icu not pulling in my most recent (today) activity.  I hope it's just a glitch!!! 

It is, David mentioned this earlier today on the Intervals forum.

Edited Wednesday at 06:36 PM by Frosty

[SwissVan]

Reading this makes me wonder if it’s not time to go back to the simple life…..like when I used to run with a Timex Iron Man indiglo with electroluminescent lighting and track my training by recording the times in a diary…. Distances where mostly a thumb suck or measured by driving the route, unless it was a club TT or race. 
 

Elevation / meters climbed, heart rate, watts……….Pfffft

 

[betaboy]

All this digital admin… steals time away from real issues… your fuel information strategy and that new 2025 model with wider legs 😂😂 to handle a 50.🤭

[Mountain Bru]

Pretty sure Strava is gonna try to double down on their analytics and coaching/training plan offering soon and wants to stop giving freebies to their competitors. If they have to hire developers to maintain their integrations with a million 3rd parties, they don't want to give that work to their competitors.

[Mamil]

I've decided to delete my Strava profile on 1 January. My sub expires in June 2025.

I pay them, I provide them with every heartbeat, every watt and every route. The data is mine not theirs to control.

I'm also looking at my other digital footprint stuff, Google, meta and minimising how much data I'm giving them. I don't like how these big tech businesses are behaving globally and I don't want to be part of it. I love the data and the convenience of the apps so I'm not willing to go fully analogue but intervals.icu and Garmin are where I'll be in terms of sport.

 

 

[JacquesJ]

10 minutes ago, Mamil said:

I've decided to delete my Strava profile on 1 January. My sub expires in June 2025.

I pay them, I provide them with every heartbeat, every watt and every route. The data is mine not theirs to control.

I'm also looking at my other digital footprint stuff, Google, meta and minimising how much data I'm giving them. I don't like how these big tech businesses are behaving globally and I don't want to be part of it. I love the data and the convenience of the apps so I'm not willing to go fully analogue but intervals.icu and Garmin are where I'll be in terms of sport.

 

 

This also prompted me to go have a look at all the apps/connections I have. Deleted a few I dont use any more. Also mapped out how things flow and confirmed nothing important comes from Strava (had to repoint one or to to Garmin). Gave up my Strava premium because of this - will keep them just to give some kudos to friends after big races, but for training and fitness tracking Xert, Garmin and now intervals.icu have me covered.

[Frosty]

3 hours ago, Mamil said:

The data is mine not theirs to control

There’s been a lot of discussions around this. The data is yours, and they don’t deny it, and you have full right to see it in any 3rd party app that connects is the Strava. 

However, no-one else can view it (as they stated in their T&Cs) so you are not affected by this but rather anyone wanting to view it. What you are affected by, and it’s as clear as mud, in their T&Cs, relating to 3rd parties using it for analysis purposes. David (Intervals) has clarified that coaches can still see the data, so the muddy waters around the analysis of data is still (extremely) murky. There bullish communication is part of the problem.

[peepeekaitjie]

3 hours ago, Mamil said:

delete my Strava profile

without kudos how are you going to KOM?