Headshot Posted March 26 Share 23 hours ago, DieselnDust said: funny but I missed the context . I do love the term snowflake. Reminds me of Lewis Hamilton He left so you're wasting your breath tough guy... DNC and DieselnDust 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubarra Posted March 26 Share 13 minutes ago, Headshot said: Agreed. And yet there are a whole bunch of riders who view the Epic as the pinnacle of achievement and have enlarged egos as a result of riding it.Or perhaps its just attracts the kind of personality who make lots of bucks and think that way. We must move in different circles then, I need to meet these people! Most people I know who completed the Epic don't make a big deal out of it, that bike sticker that can't wash off the bike is usually the only Post-Epic vanity I notice. Think peeps are reading way too much into Burry's comment. Headshot, BigDL, BuffsVintageBikes and 3 others 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt67 Posted March 26 Share 1 hour ago, 'Dale said: Intriguing stats. Father Sun sure had a say. Which blue line is 2024 ? if its the lowest one then 2023 and 2024 were some of the highest drop outs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie NL Posted March 26 Share 1 hour ago, 'Dale said: Intriguing stats. Father Sun sure had a say. Same data, different format. The step up in drop out rate for last 3 years is striking ChrisF, BigDL, Underachiever and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIB Posted March 26 Share Zebra, Hilton., mikkelz and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffsVintageBikes Posted March 26 Share Proof that 26ers were better and the younger generation are getting softer 😉 Zebra, Underachiever, DieMelkman and 14 others 5 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted March 26 Share Post Covid health impacts might be the elephant in the room gerriemtb, Irvin85 and Danger Dassie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PygaSchmyga Posted March 26 Share 18 minutes ago, Ozzie NL said: Same data, different format. The step up in drop out rate for last 3 years is striking 11 minutes ago, TIB said: nou verstaan ek - thanks and thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Stewart Posted March 26 Share 1 minute ago, DieselnDust said: Post Covid health impacts might be the elephant in the room nah, I watched the whole Craig Kolesky video saga on YouTube last night, and I was horrified by all the people walking perfectly rideable singletrack. To me it seemed more of a case of ZERO skills other than being able to ride a bicycle on a flat, level, preferably tarred road. Anything less than that and there is a global dismount and hike-a-bike for who knows how long. Another reason to not do the Epic. I would blow my lid every time I get held up by people who have no business riding the epic at all. gemmerbal, DNC, DieselnDust and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie NL Posted March 26 Share 16 minutes ago, TIB said: Is there a reason you have not included 2023? Drop out was 28.9% that year TIB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PygaSchmyga Posted March 26 Share 1 hour ago, Headshot said: Agreed. And yet there are a whole bunch of riders who view the Epic as the pinnacle of achievement and have enlarged egos as a result of riding it. Or perhaps its just attracts the kind of personality who make lots of bucks and think that way. That's a bit bitter and smacks of sour grapes, no? And so what if people have this view - surely its a good thing to have a goal and achieving it without others pi$$ing all over it? If I were ever insane enough to try run and actually finish comrades you'd hear about it from the freaking rooftops! ChrisF, BigDL and DNC 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie NL Posted March 26 Share 5 minutes ago, Robbie Stewart said: nah, I watched the whole Craig Kolesky video saga on YouTube last night, and I was horrified by all the people walking perfectly rideable singletrack. To me it seemed more of a case of ZERO skills other than being able to ride a bicycle on a flat, level, preferably tarred road. Anything less than that and there is a global dismount and hike-a-bike for who knows how long. Another reason to not do the Epic. I would blow my lid every time I get held up by people who have no business riding the epic at all. Your argument would therefore be that the average skills level in the last 3 editions of Epic is dramatically lower than in the previous versions? Personally I think it is rather due to the fact that the increased % of the route made up of single track vs district roads is the biggest contributor to the higher drop out rate. I have looked at correlations with total distance and ascent and found none but % single track has increased dramatically BigDL, BuffsVintageBikes, Skubarra and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PygaSchmyga Posted March 26 Share 9 minutes ago, Robbie Stewart said: nah, I watched the whole Craig Kolesky video saga on YouTube last night, and I was horrified by all the people walking perfectly rideable singletrack. To me it seemed more of a case of ZERO skills other than being able to ride a bicycle on a flat, level, preferably tarred road. Anything less than that and there is a global dismount and hike-a-bike for who knows how long. Another reason to not do the Epic. I would blow my lid every time I get held up by people who have no business riding the epic at all. "who have no business riding the epic" - lots of judgerigteid around today, yoh Danger Dassie, ChrisF, NC_lurker and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie NL Posted March 26 Share 50 minutes ago, Skubarra said: We must move in different circles then, I need to meet these people! Most people I know who completed the Epic don't make a big deal out of it, that bike sticker that can't wash off the bike is usually the only Post-Epic vanity I notice. Think peeps are reading way too much into Burry's comment. The unremovable bike sticker is a myth ...glo my Skubarra, Headshot, DNC and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted March 26 Share 1 minute ago, PygaSchmyga said: That's a bit bitter and smacks of sour grapes, no? And so what if people have this view - surely its a good thing to have a goal and achieving it without others pi$$ing all over it? If I were ever insane enough to try run and actually finish comrades you'd hear about it from the freaking rooftops! Why say I'm bitter, its not like I've tried and failed. Actually i tried to enter once and failed at the first hurdle. How do you know someone's done the Epic? They tell you. 🙂 Met a guy recently who has done 7 Comrades and is aiming for 10, notwithstanding a recent back op. No ego on display at all. Makes me think its just the limited X section of my sample of epic riders. Type A personalities in the main. DNC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIB Posted March 26 Share 15 minutes ago, Ozzie NL said: Is there a reason you have not included 2023? Drop out was 28.9% that year Fixed! Ozzie NL, ChrisF and BigDL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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