Cape Town danger areas

[Mamil]

10 hours ago, milky4130 said:

 

Option 2 slightly longer if you don't fancy your chances with the M5 interchange / sharing the walking path with pedestrians. 

https://www.strava.com/segments/38273950

I like option 2 better than the M5 interchange which I have been using in both directions for some time now. Thanks. I'll use that when headed out to melkbos and the gravel out north 

[Jbr]

we tried the harbour this morning, no luck 🤣

[Jono]

Descending Constantia Nek this morning on the Hout Bay side, came across a bag of cement that had been dropped on the road, causing a hazardous raised section. This is just after the sharpish right hand turn. I have logged a service request on the COCT site. 

Edited December 12 by Jono
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[Spinnaroonie]

FYI: Report of an attempted bike theft yesterday morning around 6am.

Rockley Rd, Wynberg 

 

 

[cadenceblur]

23 minutes ago, Spinnaroonie said:

FYI: Report of an attempted bike theft yesterday morning around 6am.

Rockley Rd, Wynberg 

 

 

 

[Wannabe]

I would suggest the cyclists who got attacked with the bottles at Woodstock Bridge this morning, go lay a charge of Attempted Murder at SAPS, as there is a real possibility that a cyclist being hit with a bottle could be killed, either from the hit by the bottle, or he could lose control and end up before a passing vehicle. At the very least, it is Assault GBH, and the SAPS must open the case. If there are multiple cyclists, they should insist that a case be opened for each and every one. SAPS cannot just ignore this, as it would affect their crime stats. 

This has now moved past the point of just a mugging/robbery, there is now serious intent to injure cyclists, and it is premediated/planned and executed. 

Edited Sunday at 11:48 AM by Wannabe
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[Robbie Stewart]

18 hours ago, cadenceblur said:

 

I wonder if it's warranted to give that "lady" a good old fashioned hiding in this instance should the opportunity present itself? Mmmm. 

It's shocking to read between this and that other thread how bad things are getting on the roads in Cape Town. Society has degenerated rapidly over the last couple of years. 

[MORNE]

6 minutes ago, Robbie Stewart said:

I wonder if it's warranted to give that "lady" a good old fashioned hiding in this instance should the opportunity present itself? Mmmm. 

It's shocking to read between this and that other thread how bad things are getting on the roads in Cape Town. Society has degenerated rapidly over the last couple of years. 

I dont thinks its this. Society has always been sh!t. People are sh!t.
Bikes have just reached a point where they cost more than cars…and they are easy pickings. What changed is, the skollies and the syndicates who pay them also know now. If bikes were macro bike money, i doubt there would be as many incidents. They would be aiming their talents at the next big/easy score i stead. 
i bet you everyone in a VW or Toyota forum also thinks the world has gone to sh!t😅 

[Meezo]

Someone drive over the scum?

 

Edited Monday at 09:31 AM by Meezo

[Robbie Stewart]

9 hours ago, MORNE said:

I dont thinks its this. Society has always been sh!t. People are sh!t.
Bikes have just reached a point where they cost more than cars…and they are easy pickings. What changed is, the skollies and the syndicates who pay them also know now. If bikes were macro bike money, i doubt there would be as many incidents. They would be aiming their talents at the next big/easy score i stead. 
i bet you everyone in a VW or Toyota forum also thinks the world has gone to sh!t😅 

Ya, I suppose it's true. This is why I prefer to ride on closed trails. 

[waveydavey]

On 12/6/2024 at 9:44 AM, Johnny82 said:

This might be a good place to start:

 

https://www.capetown.gov.za/City-Connect/Have-your-say/Issues-open-for-public-comment/draft-walking-and-cycling-strategy

There is already a very good route through made for NMT. My city cycle lane to Woodstock. Up onto church street bridge and a cycle lane down Albert Road.

Good route just not policed or maintained. Any new route would need policing and maintaining so all they really need to do is sort the existing one out.

[DJR]

10 minutes ago, waveydavey said:

There is already a very good route through made for NMT. My city cycle lane to Woodstock. Up onto church street bridge and a cycle lane down Albert Road.

Good route just not policed or maintained. Any new route would need policing and maintaining so all they really need to do is sort the existing one out.

About the West Coast cycle lane into the City Centre, I fully agree, sort out the security, clean up and fix the fences. Trouble is that it was / is a politically unpalatable action to forcibly remove the illegal squallers and criminals from the area. Without that step, the safety problem cannot be solved.

About the cycle land along Albert Road - I consider that conceptually disfunctional because it is not separated from traffic. In my honest opinion, it makes it MORE dangerous to ride there. Having a painted lane in such close proximity to parking bays, bus stops, pedestrians and moving vehicles just gives a false sense of safety, especially in a society that disobey every rule. If you can ride that full length without getting blocked by a parked car, an Uber, doored or have to swerve out for a bus/truck/taxi/pedestrian, I will be amazed. Someting else is needed for Albert Road.

[waveydavey]

Totally agree; that was the point of maintain as well as police.

The route through Paarden Eiland should be good but is used as a loading and dumping ground for businesses in the area. Even Woodstock station has holes in the brick paving.

Albert Road is easy to sort out: it just needs kerbs to properly separate the bike lane from the traffic:. IE make it for NMT and not sensibly accessible by cars unless crossing into a property entrance.
Still much cheaper than building a new route

[CapSizer]

44 minutes ago, DJR said:

About the cycle land along Albert Road - I consider that conceptually disfunctional because it is not separated from traffic. In my honest opinion, it makes it MORE dangerous to ride there. Having a painted lane in such close proximity to parking bays, bus stops, pedestrians and moving vehicles just gives a false sense of safety, especially in a society that disobey every rule. If you can ride that full length without getting blocked by a parked car, an Uber, doored or have to swerve out for a bus/truck/taxi/pedestrian, I will be amazed. Someting else is needed for Albert Road.

Agreed, it needs a complete rethink. It was particularly noticeable that when the road was resurfaced and there were no road markings, it actually felt slightly safer than with the painted lane. The city likes to think in terms of class 1 to 4 cycle lanes, but class 3 (painted lanes) and 4 (shared but signposted roadway) routes are meaningless. The painted lanes are simply used as free parking. 

[Mamil]

I simply don't believe there is any meaningful initiative in Cape Town to cater to cyclists of any description - the design of the roads around the monstrosity that is the new riverclub development is the most immediate evidence for this assertion. The general lack of any meaningful infrastructure maintenance and security noted above really hammers home the point.  

I also believe that this creates a climate of disregard for cyclists and pedestrians in the minds of motorists who, because almost all public space is designed around the motor car, automatically and correctly assume that their needs come first

[DJR]

5 minutes ago, Mamil said:

..............I also believe that this creates a climate of disregard for cyclists and pedestrians in the minds of motorists who, because almost all public space is designed around the motor car, automatically and correctly assume that their needs come first

I totally agree, except that it feels like EVERY ******* South African nowadays believe that they should come first at everything including being a ****.