WTF CSA?

[daniemare]

Thanks Skubarra .. interesting numbers . I do like the idea of the medical cover etc that the CSA license provides; and no doubt the normal medical aids probably have some sort of "were you licensed to be racing" clause in the event of an emergency so it is a good thing to have and I do support having the license - but again - am I having the wool pulled over my eyes; am I actually covered... hmmmmmm....

No need for CSA "do I have it, Don't I have it cover". Sanlam Go Cover. Get the app. Get R1,000,000 accident cover for R30 for the day of the race.

 

No poorly run "association" can compete with a large private company.

[Big Phil]

As I mentioned before, my CSA annual membership was due to expire 31 July and I have no intention of renewing. Received an email from CSA yesterday confirming the membership expiration and what was interesting and downright hilarious is the excerpt below:

 

"Here are six reasons why renewing your membership is a great idea. As a valid member you receive:

*             Preferential rates with Europcar when you hire a vehicle anywhere in South Africa

*             Access to cycling related content on our online community portal, bespoke

*             Your personal LiveLife Solutions loyalty rewards card, offering benefits with retail partners across the country

*             15% rebate will be loaded onto your LiveLife Rewards card for your ICE ID purchase"

 

Out of their own six reasons why you should renew your CSA membership, they could only find four  .

 

Guess the non-existent two (which are probably the only reasons for joining) relate to the policies they have let lapse.

 

So the only benefits of being a standard CSA member is access to a loyalty program and receipt of news that can be sourced elsewhere. Bloody hell.

[Iwan Kemp]

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Out of their own six reasons why you should renew your CSA membership, they could only find four 

 

Pure gold!     

[Long Wheel Base]

As I mentioned before, my CSA annual membership was due to expire 31 July and I have no intention of renewing. Received an email from CSA yesterday confirming the membership expiration and what was interesting and downright hilarious is the excerpt below:

 

"Here are six reasons why renewing your membership is a great idea. As a valid member you receive:

*             Preferential rates with Europcar when you hire a vehicle anywhere in South Africa

*             Access to cycling related content on our online community portal, bespoke

*             Your personal LiveLife Solutions loyalty rewards card, offering benefits with retail partners across the country

*             15% rebate will be loaded onto your LiveLife Rewards card for your ICE ID purchase"

 

Out of their own six reasons why you should renew your CSA membership, they could only find four  .

 

Guess the non-existent two (which are probably the only reasons for joining) relate to the policies they have let lapse.

 

So the only benefits of being a standard CSA member is access to a loyalty program and receipt of news that can be sourced elsewhere. Bloody hell.

 

[Edgar]

https://www.onyourbike.bike/single-post/2017/08/03/Bradley-CSA-is-broken-but-it-can-be-fixed

 

its your fault

no its your fault

okay its everybody fault. 

 

 

“I was brought in to commercialise the sport. I am there to bring in sponsors, I am there to look after the sponsors and I am there to make sure we retain their sponsorship in the sport.

 

“You can’t sell a broken organisation to a sponsor for a return on investment that you know they cannot deliver because the structure of the sport is fundamentally broken. You can go into minutes where I repeatedly call for the structure to be fixed.

 

How many big sponsors have been brought into CSA in the last five years?

 

“None, but what have we got to sell?” asks Bradley.

[Patchelicious]

https://www.onyourbike.bike/single-post/2017/08/03/Bradley-CSA-is-broken-but-it-can-be-fixed

 

its your fault

no its your fault

okay its everybody fault.

 

“I was brought in to commercialise the sport. I am there to bring in sponsors, I am there to look after the sponsors and I am there to make sure we retain their sponsorship in the sport.

“You can’t sell a broken organisation to a sponsor for a return on investment that you know they cannot deliver because the structure of the sport is fundamentally broken. You can go into minutes where I repeatedly call for the structure to be fixed.

How many big sponsors have been brought into CSA in the last five years?

“None, but what have we got to sell?” asks Bradley.

Same old excuses. If it's been such a big problem for so long, why is it only being addressed now....

[Goodbadugly]

Bottom line?

Are they skellems or not?

And should we renew?

[gtr1]

https://www.onyourbike.bike/single-post/2017/08/03/Bradley-CSA-is-broken-but-it-can-be-fixed

 

its your fault

no its your fault

okay its everybody fault.

 

 

“I was brought in to commercialise the sport. I am there to bring in sponsors, I am there to look after the sponsors and I am there to make sure we retain their sponsorship in the sport.

 

“You can’t sell a broken organisation to a sponsor for a return on investment that you know they cannot deliver because the structure of the sport is fundamentally broken. You can go into minutes where I repeatedly call for the structure to be fixed.

 

How many big sponsors have been brought into CSA in the last five years?

 

“None, but what have we got to sell?” asks Bradley.

He was employed to bring in sponsors. In 5 years he has brought in none. Should have been fired ages ago.

 

Now he blames everyone else and thinks he can fix all the problems.

 

Me thinks he is part of the problem !

Edited August 3, 2017 by gtr1

[Stretch]

He was employed to bring in sponsors. In 5 years he has brought in none. Should have been fired ages ago.

 

Now he blames everyone else and thinks he can fix all the problems.

 

Me thinks he is part of the problem !

 

the dude has been oozing around cycling administration in KZN and nationally for well over 15 years now...always amidst some controversy....methinks you are right

[Gen]

He was employed to bring in sponsors. In 5 years he has brought in none. Should have been fired ages ago.

 

Now he blames everyone else and thinks he can fix all the problems.

 

Me thinks he is part of the problem !

Most definitely

 

He wasn't even able to find a treasurer (until now) .how the hell can he fix the mess he couldn't fix in 5 years.

 

The mere fact that financials weren't available at the AGM meeting says to me he was hiding the problems for a long time and hoping it would magically go away.

 

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Edited August 4, 2017 by Gen

[scotty]

Bottom line?

Are they skellems or not? Yes

And should we renew? No 

They take money from me at the start of year for membership , then a % of every race I do and for this I see zilch. Unless I see some sort of turnaround and benefit I will not be renewing next year. 

[Frosty]

They take money from me at the start of year for membership , and full racing licence then a % of every race I do and for this I see zilch. Unless I see some sort of turnaround and benefit I will not be renewing next year.

took the liberty of editing your post to reflect my decision for next year.

 

I also plan to enter online, before my membership expires in early Jan - thus avoiding the need to pay for a day licence for the Jan/Feb races.

 

#ItsNotAboutTheCost

Edited August 7, 2017 by Frosty

[LOOK695]

Is a csa membership necessary to enter events?

 

Also, has it been confirmed whether one can take part in the open seeded groups using a disc brake road bike?

Edited August 15, 2017 by LOOK695

[shaper]

My CSA licence ends 1 November, so have entered all the races that I will do for the rest of the year online.  Will not be renewing and will likely not do any races beginning of next year... will watch and see how thing pan out with CSA.

 

If numbers start dropping for races because of not being licenced or buying a temp licence, will organisers start waiving the temp licence so get the numbers?

[Patchelicious]

Its so simple, you want subscribers? Create perceived or even better, real value.

[Serious Panda]

Its so simple, you want subscribers? Create perceived or even better, real value.

 

But in South Africa people can be forced to pay money for nothing, this is why the Guptas are so rich.