RobynE 🚵♀️ Posted July 25, 2025 Posted July 25, 2025 41 minutes ago, Chrisjanopsyfiets said: Vingegaard deserves the price for Most Non Combative Rider He’s looked stronger this year than last, but the last few stages he’s been a wheel sucker of note. Very annoying to watch. Hats off to TP for not rising to what must be akin to a mosquito around your ear in the dark.
cadenceblur Posted July 25, 2025 Posted July 25, 2025 1 hour ago, RobynE 🚵♀️ said: He’s looked stronger this year than last, but the last few stages he’s been a wheel sucker of note. Very annoying to watch. Hats off to TP for not rising to what must be akin to a mosquito around your ear in the dark. Very poor for a team leader of a big team like Jumbo, actually embarrassing from JV overall. Scott roy, peetwindhoek, NC_lurker and 1 other 4
cadenceblur Posted July 25, 2025 Posted July 25, 2025 1 hour ago, IceCreamMan said: Pogacar made a huge statement today and that is don’t bother turning up for 2026 either cos I am gonna whip you then too. There may well be other challengers besides Jonas next year if I look at some of the performances of some of the young guns. IceCreamMan 1
Prince Albert Cycles Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 I think it is unfair to criticize JV . He is by far better than the rest and is up against the best rider and team in the world . His attacks did not work . At least he tried . Had he attacked again yesterday his critics would have called him stupid . Andrew_Smith, Hobbes, peetwindhoek and 11 others 14
babse Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 (edited) Also think Jonas is better than his ever been. Even in his riding style. He has a proper team too. His really thrown everything he has as Pog. If he had more in the tank, he would of attacked more times. Its just unlucky for him that his up against an absolute generational talent in Pog who's learn so much from the years he was beaten. Its unfortunate for the spectacle of winning the race but you have to admire greatness. Edited July 26, 2025 by babse *Spelling Underachiever, El Duderino, peetwindhoek and 8 others 10 1
Underachiever Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 4 hours ago, Prince Albert Cycles said: I think it is unfair to criticize JV . He is by far better than the rest and is up against the best rider and team in the world . His attacks did not work . At least he tried . Had he attacked again yesterday his critics would have called him stupid . Very, very true, but at least go through and do a (short) pull. 100% wheelsucking, nearly 100% of the time does not win him any admiration.
Scott roy Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 32 minutes ago, Underachiever said: Very, very true, but at least go through and do a (short) pull. 100% wheelsucking, nearly 100% of the time does not win him any admiration. I think given his position it was in his best interests to not pull. It might not make the greatest spectacle but I think he made the right call. NC_lurker 1
cadenceblur Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 33 minutes ago, Underachiever said: Very, very true, but at least go through and do a (short) pull. 100% wheelsucking, nearly 100% of the time does not win him any admiration. This …. He rode for second and in big team like JV, that cannot be good enough, he had enough of a gap on the third placed rider on GC. Show some fight for goodness sake. Underachiever 1
Guest Mike Dewing Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 3 hours ago, babse said: Also think Jonas is better than his ever been. Even in his riding style. He has a proper team too. His really throw everything he has as Pog. If he has more in the tank, he would of attacked more times. Its just unlucky for him that his up against an absolute generational talent in Pog who's learn so much from the years he was beaten. Its unfortunate for the spectacle of winning the race but you have to admire greatness. Jonas is so good his only flaw is existing at the same time as Pogi..
Eugene Oppelt Posted July 26, 2025 Author Posted July 26, 2025 Jonas Vingegaard is a 2 time Tour de France winner, the biggest annual sporting event on the calendar. And his team won all 3 Grand Tours in 2024. Like the mystical thing called Life, one can virtually do everything right in preparation and execution, and still lose. That’s high performance; that’s sport. 📸 @visualsofharry shova1, Prince Albert Cycles, gerriemtb and 2 others 4 1
RobynE 🚵♀️ Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 I’m not criticising JV, but watching him on the wheel refusing to pull even for a minute with like 120km still left to go, but leaping on every TP attack and ending up right back on the wheel, is a little annoying to watch. I was rooting for him for a very long time this tour. Certainly not a hater. DieselnDust and Underachiever 2
Chrisjanopsyfiets Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 Visma had a plan that worked when there were multiple GC contenders in the mix. When you are left with two world class riders alone against each other it is unfortunately man on man and you will be left with no other strategy but to get in the proverbial ring and knock the other guy out. The team “sitting in the pavilion” cannot help you much. I didn’t really see JV get in the ring this year but perhaps my view is a bit harsh. DieselnDust 1
Scott roy Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 32 minutes ago, RobynE 🚵♀️ said: I’m not criticising JV, but watching him on the wheel refusing to pull even for a minute with like 120km still left to go, but leaping on every TP attack and ending up right back on the wheel, is a little annoying to watch. I was rooting for him for a very long time this tour. Certainly not a hater. In a way I agree, but why would he pull his rival, his stronger rival? He must conserve as much as possible to have the best chance at success for himself. Prince Albert Cycles, babse, justinafrika and 1 other 2 2
SwissVan Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 (edited) 4 hours ago, cadenceblur said: This …. He rode for second and in big team like JV, that cannot be good enough, he had enough of a gap on the third placed rider on GC. Show some fight for goodness sake. I think JV has released resistance (against the current version pog) is futile https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/keeping-tadej-pogacar-at-peak-level-is-no-longer-a-question-of-age-but-mainly-of-motivation-says-uae-head-of-performance-as-he-nears-fourth-tour-de-france-title/ Edited July 26, 2025 by SwissVan cadenceblur 1
Bro Derek Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 Did I watch the same race as everyone else? Jonas attacked 7 times the other day, from 50km out and all the way to the finish. The next day he attacked at least 3 times pretty early and continued to attack closer to the finish. He couldn't drop him and if he did he couldn't stay away. Pog is in a league of his own. IMHO Jonas needs to race more. Race more 1 day races and get used to (or more in tune with?) the flat taps racing that happens these days. No more sky/Visma train controlling the race and others sitting up accepting it. It is balls out racing. Being in that environment more would benefit him. But I do think current Pog is untouchable by anyone currently riding Meezo, Scott roy, babse and 3 others 5 1
milky4130 Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 6 hours ago, Mike Dewing said: Jonas is so good his only flaw is existing at the same time as Pogi.. You do know that Jonas won 2 x Tours beating Pogacar, right? J Wakefield, Prince Albert Cycles, mikkelz and 1 other 3 1
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