Flowta Posted April 1, 2014 Share One thing and I am going to use myself here again as an exampleIf I walk into a shop and I see a Dogma, I am going to accept that is the real deal. Same with a Trek and a Scott and a Gary Fisher. I am not going to question if it is a grey import. Same with other things. My MacBook. I accept that is the real deal, because of the White Apple logo on the cover. For all I know Core might have screwed my over and I would never know. Same with TV's and other things you buy in SA. How would we know if we get the real deal or a fake piece of poo from China? Big difference between GREY and FAKE! A grey Pinarello is still a Pinarello. A fake on the other hand is not Eldron and GoLefty!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKvoodoo Posted April 1, 2014 Share Yes Grey just means it was imported through an unauthorized supplier ,It's still a Dogma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MockTurtle Posted April 1, 2014 Share Big difference between GREY and FAKE! A grey Pinarello is still a Pinarello. A fake on the other hand is notthis. think a lot of people are still confuzzled by this. just because its a grey import doesn't make it fake.ie. i've bought photo equipment from an online shop in new york. doesn't automaticallly mean they are fake. it does mean I waive local warantee and support. http://en.wikipedia....Parallel_import it does muddy the waters in a case like this though. how do you defend being sold a fake grey vs a genuine grey? Edited April 1, 2014 by MockTurtle MaXiMuM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPSLICK Posted April 1, 2014 Share PEOPLE I PUT IT TOO YOU PLEASE READ THE OP clearly states the bike is a fake pleeeez people focus HeyYou and slowpoke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted April 1, 2014 Share OK I THINK EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GREY AND FAKEENOUGH NOW ITS BEEN EXPLAINED A FEW TIMES TODAY DIPSLICK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebel Posted April 1, 2014 Share OK I THINK EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GREY AND FAKEENOUGH NOW ITS BEEN EXPLAINED A FEW TIMES TODAY So glad I didn't post my bit about grey vs fake...... As an aside, do a Google search for replica/fake Ferraris. SwissVan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted April 1, 2014 Share One thing and I am going to use myself here again as an exampleIf I walk into a shop and I see a Dogma, I am going to accept that is the real deal. Same with a Trek and a Scott and a Gary Fisher. I am not going to question if it is a grey import. Same with other things. My MacBook. I accept that is the real deal, because of the White Apple logo on the cover. For all I know Core might have screwed my over and I would never know. Same with TV's and other things you buy in SA. How would we know if we get the real deal or a fake piece of poo from China? FFS. When will people get it right?! A grey import is NOT A FAKE ITEM. A GREY IMPORT is the GENUINE item, brought in directly, through avenues other than the official licensed distribution channel. AKA - grey lines / unofficial avenues. IT IS NOT A FAKE. It is made by the same company, from teh same material, to the same specifications, just delivered through a different channel. If you bought a Toyota from Japan and imported it here, it would be considered a GREY import. A FAKE is just that - not the real thing, copied, altered, whatever blah blah blah. It is not the original item, nor is it made by the same company. IT IS FAKE. I repeat. A GREY IMPORT IS NOT A FAKE ITEM!!! Get your terminology right, for heavens sake. slowpoke and Tjokkits 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted April 1, 2014 Share Okay. Seems I came to the party a bit late. TO answer someone else on Fake grey vs Legit Grey - no such thing as "fake Grey" imports. A fake is a fake. End of. There is no legitimate distribution model for fake or counterfeit goods, due to their properties of being, well, fake. Grey imports are imports of legitimate items (not fakes) through non official channels. If people don't get it by now, I give up/. GaryvdM, Danger Dassie and slowpoke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0adrunner Posted April 1, 2014 Share To those of you who some how think I deserved to be ripped off. Perhaps you would like to borrow my fake frame, fake wheels and fake handlebars and practice some technical descending! I'm quite keen. I'll pay for shipping? Lexx and Capricorn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapee.. Posted April 1, 2014 Share Okay so can someone please explain fake vs grey nathrix, Help.Me., Andrew Steer and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cellar Posted April 1, 2014 Share Okay so can someone please explain fake vs grey FFS. When will people get it right?! A grey import is NOT A FAKE ITEM. A GREY IMPORT is the GENUINE item, brought in directly, through avenues other than the official licensed distribution channel. AKA - grey lines / unofficial avenues. IT IS NOT A FAKE. It is made by the same company, from teh same material, to the same specifications, just delivered through a different channel. If you bought a Toyota from Japan and imported it here, it would be considered a GREY import. A FAKE is just that - not the real thing, copied, altered, whatever blah blah blah. It is not the original item, nor is it made by the same company. IT IS FAKE. I repeat. A GREY IMPORT IS NOT A FAKE ITEM!!! Get your terminology right, for heavens sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 1, 2014 Share Mod note:A number of trolling, off topic and personally attacking posts have been removed from the last few pages of this thread. Please refrain from such posts Meerkat82 and Spoke101 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock Posted April 1, 2014 Share Okay so can someone please explain fake vs grey grey is the genuine product not imported through the 'official' channels, fake is like 'fong kong', product is made by another manufacture to resemble the genuine article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevG Posted April 1, 2014 Share I don't buy from this shop often enough to warrant any difference to their turn over, but from their lack of reply, I definitely wont be buying anything their until this is cleared upWe all spend a lot of cash on bikes, not keen on being sold a fake at a genuine or even grey priceGood luck Andrew, thanks for heads up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted April 1, 2014 Share Okay so can someone please explain fake vs grey Grey is the genuine item imported in parallel or bypassing the 'official' agent Fake is an item that does not come from the manufacturer but built to look like the real thing, and labelled as such. Counterfiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cellar Posted April 1, 2014 Share grey is the genuine product not imported through the 'official' channels, fake is like 'fong kong', product is made by another manufacture to resemble the genuine article. Like buying Mavic wheels from CWC? HeyYou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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