Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[shaper]

Good point.

 

I'll do a ramp-up. Will start on 3 runs and a couple of cycles a week and will look to swap one cycle day for a run after a month and a fifth run after two months.

A lot will depend on the plan you are considering as a 5 day plan may have very easy and short runs in the beginning of the base phase before going into the build phase where there will be more intensity and duration.  You will need to look at the plan you are considering using to see how the workouts are structured and factor in whether you need to ramp up as considering.

[Blokeonabike]

For those looking for new/more shoes. Some older Hoka models on onedayonly.co.za

[Blokeonabike]

For those looking for new/more shoes. Some older Hoka models on onedayonly.co.za

[shaper]

Comrades 2022 a down run

 

https://www.news24.com/amp/witness/sport/comrades-2022-will-be-a-down-run-confirm-marathon-organisers-20210330

[SeaBee]

To add to marathon program ideas, what I tend to do for road (when I did that) was to build up to running the full distance of the race (whatever distance it might be) per week. Then add specific work and intervals and more days/volume. 

 

And do a couple of runs that surpasses 32k's.

That is roundabout the mark where all the gremlins initially come into play. Whether your shoes are good for longer than half marathon distance, bonking, walking, cramps, a sudden dislike in things you used to eat before, all those fun things... 

 

Good luck - and enjoy the journey! As well as the destination. Your first marathon remains a super special moment.

[Jewbacca]

I have a question for you guys who are more technically minded than I am..

 

I have been drinking the minimus/zero drop cool aid for 15 odd years. The biggest heal/toe difference I've had was 2mm in my Nike run free knit in 2015.

 

On the trail, what would be the effect of going from a zero drop (Read Altra Lone Peak etc) to say a 6mm drop?

 

The new Nike trail shoes look RAD and I feel like I want a change. But not sure if I've hamstrung myself. 

 

Is it really going to make no difference at all? My heart says I should just try it but my head says I should at least ask first.

Edited April 4, 2021 by Jewbacca

[SeaBee]

I'm not an expert... but my guess is that going up is not going to make much of a difference. The problem comes when you go down in drop and the calves suddenly gets a bit more of a stretch.

 

Plus, it's trail so you hardly ever land "flat" anyways. At a stage I had shoes varying from 0 (Altra) to 4 (Saucony) I usually ran with interchangeably. And then I actually had 8mm Saucony I ran with when I did marathons or Oceans. But I do tend to strike forefoot - I think that also makes the heel offset less of an impact. Just touch down quickly with the heel.

 

Edit: PS - I have also been told my calves are very flexible, so that may also play a role.

Edited April 4, 2021 by SeaBee

[Chris_]

Ruth Chepngetich New 21k world record in Istanbul. 64:02. 30 secs quicker!

[Jewbacca]

I'm not an expert... but my guess is that going up is not going to make much of a difference. The problem comes when you go down in drop and the calves suddenly gets a bit more of a stretch.

 

Plus, it's trail so you hardly ever land "flat" anyways. At a stage I had shoes varying from 0 (Altra) to 4 (Saucony) I usually ran with interchangeably. And then I actually had 8mm Saucony I ran with when I did marathons or Oceans. But I do tend to strike forefoot - I think that also makes the heel offset less of an impact. Just touch down quickly with the heel.

 

Edit: PS - I have also been told my calves are very flexible, so that may also play a role.

This was my take on it.

 

Anyone run in the new Nike Wildhorse 7's?

[b-rad]

I have a question for you guys who are more technically minded than I am..

 

I have been drinking the minimus/zero drop cool aid for 15 odd years. The biggest heal/toe difference I've had was 2mm in my Nike run free knit in 2015.

 

On the trail, what would be the effect of going from a zero drop (Read Altra Lone Peak etc) to say a 6mm drop?

 

The new Nike trail shoes look RAD and I feel like I want a change. But not sure if I've hamstrung myself. 

 

Is it really going to make no difference at all? My heart says I should just try it but my head says I should at least ask first.

What about Inov8? They have around a 3mm drop. Something like the Terraultra G270?

[Jewbacca]

What about Inov8? They have around a 3mm drop. Something like the Terraultra G270?

I have a weird relationship with Inov8. They were my 'go to' shoe for the trails about 8 ish years ago but we fell out of love. My brain still associates them negatively.

 

I could conversely just buy more Altras. I'm just bored of drinking the same cool aid for so many years

[Wayne Potgieter]

Managed to sneak in a cheeky trail run while away for Easter Holidays.

 

Run took place along the bushway at the Waitangi Treaty grounds.

 

[Craai]

Ruth Chepngetich New 21k world record in Istanbul. 64:02. 30 secs quicker!

That's just ridiculous. 30s over that distance.... WOW 

[ScottCM]

 

 

Hey sneaky bugger, i see your name is on the start list for UTD 160 171 . How is the body feeling? are you in full taper seen as its just over a fortnight away?

[Chris_]

Hey sneaky bugger, i see your name is on the start list for UTD 160 171 . How is the body feeling? are you in full taper seen as its just over a fortnight away?

 

Hahaha indeed it is. We rolled over the entry from last year. Bodies fine, as usual I'll be going in with the 'rather undertrained than injured' philosophy... But ja, really looking forward to a nice long outing in the berg. I had a pretty pitiful-attempt DNF in 2019 so it would be nice to do this one a decent go.

[dave303e]

I have a question for you guys who are more technically minded than I am..

 

I have been drinking the minimus/zero drop cool aid for 15 odd years. The biggest heal/toe difference I've had was 2mm in my Nike run free knit in 2015.

 

On the trail, what would be the effect of going from a zero drop (Read Altra Lone Peak etc) to say a 6mm drop?

 

The new Nike trail shoes look RAD and I feel like I want a change. But not sure if I've hamstrung myself. 

 

Is it really going to make no difference at all? My heart says I should just try it but my head says I should at least ask first.

 

As far as I am concerned going to a higher drop shouldn't cause issues, usually lower drops put more strain on shorter muscles and tendons.

 

I don't know about the wild horse, but I am 1200km into my Pegasus 36 trail shoes and about to order the 2nd pair now. Uppers are still perfect, tread is good, was super comfortable for the first 120km at karkloof in them and only swapped to the salomons for dry shoes for the last marathon when the rain had stopped. I bought a pair of salomon ultras a week after the nikes and the salomon ultra's today have 260km on them total. I just automatically go to the Nikes.