Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[dave303e]

Seems like Farmers Daughter at Yard41 is being rebranded anyway.

 

Honestly Karkloof country club just works better in my opinion. There is a lot more space, it feels more secure with less public passing by and a lot less traffic. The clubhouse facilities are golden for runners, they had a sprinkler on in the heat and then when it was cold there was a fireplace and a hot shower ready. When I came in on Sat night it was really cold and I had gotten caught out a little with nothing but a very light rain jacket, so to cross the line and run in to a hot shower immediately was a life saver, I had fought for over an hour trying to move fast enough to keep warm.

 

The verandah and food at the club was also a win for crew, they could have cold beer on tap and sneak in mtb rides while we were running. They have really great burgers and toasted sandwiches.
With covid it was also a win, nowhere felt cramped or crowded it was very easy to social distance and the crew area was well spaced to have your own area. 

 

The vibe was good, there were mtb riders in and out, plenty of crew enjoying the show from the verandah. 

 

Ultimately it would be epic if they had the start, halfway and finish at the country club, with a 50 mile out and back/loop either side similar to the old route

[PhilipV]

I am not sure if this is the correct thread for this, but I have heard that more and more people take up running for crosstraining. Knee impact is the biggest reason for my lack of interest. Besides personal preference, what other advantages does running hold in your experience?

Impact injuries are a risk when you ramp up your mileage too quickly. Take it slowly at first.

[Jewbacca]

Impact injuries are a risk when you ramp up your mileage too quickly. Take it slowly at first.

This and ITB issues.

 

The problem is, when 'fit' cyclists/other sportsers start running, they have good lungs and a good ticker, so they over do the miles before their stabiliser muscles get a chance to develop.

 

Guys land up with 'over use' injuries in no time.

[Let's Ride]

This and ITB issues.

 

The problem is, when 'fit' cyclists/other sportsers start running, they have good lungs and a good ticker, so they over do the miles before their stabiliser muscles get a chance to develop.

 

Guys land up with 'over use' injuries in no time.

Battling with my ITB right now. Never focused on my core strength before the ITB issues arose.

[Jewbacca]

Battling with my ITB right now. Never focused on my core strength before the ITB issues arose.

Sorry to hear that.

 

The only real cure for that is rest, a foam roller, rest and a needle session... then more rest and more foam roller

[Jackes]

Sorry to hear that.

 

The only real cure for that is rest, a foam roller, rest and a needle session... then more rest and more foam roller

 

For me the contrary was the solution.  After all the resting it just came back.   

Agreed on the strengthening etc etc, but mileage cut back was the answer for me and also time.  Each year gets better.  

 

Especially from 3:15 onwards...  

[b-rad]

Seems like Farmers Daughter at Yard41 is being rebranded anyway.

 

Honestly Karkloof country club just works better in my opinion. There is a lot more space, it feels more secure with less public passing by and a lot less traffic. The clubhouse facilities are golden for runners, they had a sprinkler on in the heat and then when it was cold there was a fireplace and a hot shower ready. When I came in on Sat night it was really cold and I had gotten caught out a little with nothing but a very light rain jacket, so to cross the line and run in to a hot shower immediately was a life saver, I had fought for over an hour trying to move fast enough to keep warm.

 

The verandah and food at the club was also a win for crew, they could have cold beer on tap and sneak in mtb rides while we were running. They have really great burgers and toasted sandwiches.

With covid it was also a win, nowhere felt cramped or crowded it was very easy to social distance and the crew area was well spaced to have your own area. 

 

The vibe was good, there were mtb riders in and out, plenty of crew enjoying the show from the verandah. 

 

Ultimately it would be epic if they had the start, halfway and finish at the country club, with a 50 mile out and back/loop either side similar to the old route

The club is a great venue absolutely. Good to hear your thoughts on it.

 

Farmers Daughter at Yard 41 closed down. There is a new restaurant due to open up in its place called Village.

[Let's Ride]

Sorry to hear that.

 

The only real cure for that is rest, a foam roller, rest and a needle session... then more rest and more foam roller

I started the couch to 10km in June 2018. Did the two oceans half in 2019.

 

Had never done more than 10kms until I did the oceans. Longest run so far has been 40 km's split over two days and that's where my itb issues started, longest run before that was always around 21kms and then rest day afterwards.

 

It is very frustrating only upping milage slowly. On the day you might feel fine but part all the issues appear.

 

Cycling you can be unfit go and do the Argus and heal quickly.

[ChrisF]

I started the couch to 10km in June 2018. Did the two oceans half in 2019.

 

Had never done more than 10kms until I did the oceans. Longest run so far has been 40 km's split over two days and that's where my itb issues started, longest run before that was always around 21kms and then rest day afterwards.

 

It is very frustrating only upping milage slowly. On the day you might feel fine but part all the issues appear.

 

Cycling you can be unfit go and do the Argus and heal quickly.

Consider a few sessions with a biokineticist.

 

It starts with core exercises, some leg exercises. Initially just front to back, then later side to side ...

 

 

It really helps with the ITB

[dave303e]

You often also need to strengthen your hip flexors/tfl to stop ITB issues or it will tighten up again. 

Dropping km and building again slowly will help, don't forget the strengthening work though.

[Chris_]

Does anyone know if anyone here is doing Karkloof 100? Kicked off this morning. Looks like it'll be a very hot day today.

Wife and I were there. To set the scene I've covered 160kms total of run training since end of July, missus was probably beginning of July, so we knew this was going to be a slog.

 

We started Fri as we'd need every minute of the time available. It didn't seem terribly hot temp wise, but as I learned the hot dry wind really dehydrated me more than I thought. Between 40 and 50kms I went from hero to flat on my back, once again unable to keep anything down. Long sad story short we both ended the day on 60km,plan was for 2 days of 80.

 

Sat was better, I was surprised how well we had both recovered, I got through 80, if I were alone I may have pushed for the final loop that night but there was no need really. Missus only manged 60 again with a bit of a breakdown mid way but thanks to some epic support from the kzntr and trail labs guys she got moving again.

 

Sun then I only needed 20 to finish, wife cracked on through a long 40kms well withing the cutoff like a champ. Her first time covering 100 miles.

 

Venue, aid stations, route, organization, all top notch I thought. A really great weekend, some tough spots but mostly really good.

[Jackes]

My google skills are a let down today.  What time will the mens london marathon be broadcasted on supersport? 

[dave303e]

Wife and I were there. To set the scene I've covered 160kms total of run training since end of July, missus was probably beginning of July, so we knew this was going to be a slog.

 

We started Fri as we'd need every minute of the time available. It didn't seem terribly hot temp wise, but as I learned the hot dry wind really dehydrated me more than I thought. Between 40 and 50kms I went from hero to flat on my back, once again unable to keep anything down. Long sad story short we both ended the day on 60km,plan was for 2 days of 80.

 

Sat was better, I was surprised how well we had both recovered, I got through 80, if I were alone I may have pushed for the final loop that night but there was no need really. Missus only manged 60 again with a bit of a breakdown mid way but thanks to some epic support from the kzntr and trail labs guys she got moving again.

 

Sun then I only needed 20 to finish, wife cracked on through a long 40kms well withing the cutoff like a champ. Her first time covering 100 miles.

 

Venue, aid stations, route, organization, all top notch I thought. A really great weekend, some tough spots but mostly really good.

 

I can't have imagine running on the Friday.

My crew went for a mtb ride in the afternoon so I was chilling feet up and hydrating on the clubhouse verandah. Just sitting there with the hot wind, even in the shade I was sweating.

[Hacc]

My google skills are a let down today.  What time will the mens london marathon be broadcasted on supersport? 

They are broadcasting from 8 am to 4 pm. The men's race starts at 10:15 BST, I think that is then 11:15 for us.

[Pieter-za]

Recent peer reviewed research on using PPG (oHR) vs HRM strap sensors:

 

​​Concurrent heart rate validity of wearable technology devices during trail running 

 

In other news, from Coros Global:

Beginning tomorrow (Friday Morning) in New Jersey, Camille will look to set a new 48 hour World Record. The distance to beat for women is 397.103km (246.75 miles) set more than 10 years ago, but don’t be surprised if she also tries to grab the overall American record of 262 miles currently held by a man.

Edited October 2, 2020 by Pieter-za

[Jehosefat]

Recent peer reviewed research on using PPG (oHR) vs HRM strap sensors:

 

​​Concurrent heart rate validity of wearable technology devices during trail running 

 

In summary: optical HR sensors are s**t and should not be used outside of laboratory conditions. Use a chest strap.

Edited October 2, 2020 by Jehosefat