Eldron Posted April 25, 2018 Share I once tried to cut out sugar for a month. The rule was no products that have sugar in the the first 3 ingredients (they're listed in decreasing order of magnitude). There aren't a lot of products in that category! Bonus and Wayne Potgieter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniffie Posted April 25, 2018 Share I once tried to cut out sugar for a month. The rule was no products that have sugar in the the first 3 ingredients (they're listed in decreasing order of magnitude). There aren't a lot of products in that category!That is true for processed foods. If you buy whole foods, meat, fish, poultry, eggs, dairy, vegetables, and fruit for the occasional treat, no need to read the labels. Eldron, johannrissik and henningvr 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted April 25, 2018 Share Check the fructose levels. Glucose is great for endurance exercise! Fat is even better at 2.25x the energy per weight THIS is a very important part of the diabetic eating plan .. for a number of reasons : - the regular snack helps to prevent sugar dips- because you are not starved, you dont eat as much for a meal, - it forces you to plan ahead, so you the cooler box with the healthy stuff ... try to stop and pick up healthy food on the go ... took a few weeks to get into the habit, now it really is second nature there are better ways to control your hormones Captain Fastbastard Mayhem, johannrissik and Sniffie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniffie Posted April 25, 2018 Share Fat is even better at 2.25x the energy per weight there are better ways to control your hormonesFat is the ultimate endurance fuel. How did the San bushman manage to run on a gemsbuck spoor for 2 to 3 days non stop. No refreshment tables every two hours with coke and energade. Only saturated fat as fuel, stored conveniently in their own bodies. Perhaps the odd birds egg taken shell and all or cicada pupa, which when quickly roasted in hot ashes, is said to look and taste almost like mashed avocado, to provide a small protein and fat boost. henningvr and johannrissik 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-Boy Posted April 25, 2018 Share Watch and enjoy! https://youtu.be/sHEJE6I-Yl4That is just about berries, its well known that berries are full of all kinds of stuff not found in other fruit. It would be interesting to see the comparison with say a mango or watermelon which are packed with fructose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky4130 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Milky coffee without sugar at breakfast is going to take some getting used to!once you do, you'll realize how badly we have been ruining a good cup all these years & there is no going back after that ever & that's just because your taste buds won't like it. johannrissik, BikeisLife, henningvr and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted April 25, 2018 Share Fat is even better at 2.25x the energy per weight there are better ways to control your hormonesYea and no. Fat is great for steady rides - not great for high intensity rides. BikeisLife 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted April 25, 2018 Share Yea and no. Fat is great for steady rides - not great for high intensity rides. again, that depends... some elite athletes are metabolising 1g/min... at maximal efforts (read Phinney and Vollek). try and get that amount of energy in carbs down your neck and ... well, i hope you're wearing huggies. personally, i doubt I'd be anywhere near that, but heck, it's worth a try. #huggiesbegone Sniffie and Pieter-za 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted April 25, 2018 Share again, that depends... some elite athletes are metabolising 1g/min... at maximal efforts (read Phinney and Vollek). try and get that amount of energy in carbs down your neck and ... well, i hope you're wearing huggies. personally, i doubt I'd be anywhere near that, but heck, it's worth a try. #huggiesbegone1g/min is pretty easy - 1.5g/min if you mix up the carbs correctly. Ironman says so too: http://m.eu.ironman.com/triathlon/news/articles/2016/01/triathletes-guide-to-carbs.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porqui Posted April 25, 2018 Share Damn !! Shocking !! What a revelation - did not realize how much sugar I consume on a daily basis. Cutting the sugar in the coffee is not even the tip of tip of the iceberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonus Posted April 25, 2018 Share Wow - 10 pages in a day and half. Clearly a topic on a lot of people's minds. Is there a prize? Is it a bar of chocolate ;-) Dubber, Myth and johannrissik 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannrissik Posted April 25, 2018 Share Is there a prize? Is it a bar of chocolate ;-)The prize is a new you. Simple as that. Sugar is addictive, which is why it's consumption is so vehemently defended by the addicts (and the industry shills). Saddest for me is to see a diabetic defending the nonsense he is being fed by a dietician....and no prizes for them, just all the usual complications of full blown diabetes in the not too distant future. Enjoy your coffee tomorrow morning. Bonus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted April 26, 2018 Share The prize is a new you. Simple as that. Sugar is addictive, which is why it's consumption is so vehemently defended by the addicts (and the industry shills). Saddest for me is to see a diabetic defending the nonsense he is being fed by a dietician....and no prizes for them, just all the usual complications of full blown diabetes in the not too distant future. Enjoy your coffee tomorrow morning. and you base this comment on what exactly ? Let me repeat myself - I DID do the google thing, and eventually had to make a call ..... 1) Follow conventional medical training and advise from a person with proper qualifications in this field and years experience in her field OR 2) follow the "mist" of "common wisdom" and unfiltered ideas floating on the web ... and dont kid yourself !! A LOT of what is on the web is published by parties pushing some or other agenda. I made the call to put my 100% effort into what my dietitian told me. Not just in some 10 page folder and a 1 hour session with her. NO, I went back again and again, sent many emails to her .... I asked MANY questions. Getting to the core of what applies to MY medical situation ..... She studied my medical records from the last 20 years, comprehensive blood tests, detailed analysis of my lifestyle, even worked around my likes and dislikes of some foods. I go for a full medical check up every 6 months, full blood work. My specialist and my dietitian checks these results and provide feedback. I can some up my medical stats for the last 26 months as follows:- Morbidly obese and bordering on insulin injections- to a lean body with all stats showing up very good, and minimal meds The ONLY concern at this point in time is to ensure that the minimum dosage does not push my blood sugar too low ! Which basically means there is a very real possibility that the "nonsense" I was fed by the dietitian actually WORKS, and have almost completely reversed my Type 2 diabetis. Now let's be very clear about this - March 2016 I DECIDED to give the dietician the benefit of the doubt, and I followed the diabetic eating plan 99% (the other 1% simply due to work trips, with another 8 hour work trip for today and another two day fly away trip next week...). I record my daily food intake each night on a spread sheet. As an engineering specialist with a dual professional registration I deal daily with clients that have NO knowledge of my field. I also get to deal with those that have spent two minutes on google and who want to tell me how to do my job ...... understanding the role of a suitably qualified specialist, I did my homework and found a properly qualified and experienced dietitian, followed her advise, and the results speak for themselves. I will not make comments about banting or any other eating plan ... as I have not tried it myself. But I CAN confirm that actually properly following a diabetic eating plan WORKS ! Tristand, worriesnot, Showtime and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted April 26, 2018 Share Amuses me when the disciples of a certain diet/eating plan/latest fad are willing to defend their particular 'religion' as it were to the death ... In my humble experience specific types of eating plans be it banting, LCHF, vegan, vegetarian whatever the case may be don't work for everyone. High protein works for me but my wife tried it and she was Ill and has reverted to a more 'weight watchers' type diet that does work (for her). Surely if fat gave so much energy for high intensity exercise all elite athletes would be on it like white on rice ... Just a thought I mean these teams/professionals throw so much money at 'doctors/scientists' to ensure they get every marginal gain possible .... Then again what do I know #SMH Sent from my HUAWEI VNS-L31 using Tapatalk Wayne Potgieter, Tristand, Bonus and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonus Posted April 26, 2018 Share 36 hours in and I have avoided all the main culprits - Sweets, Chocolate, White Sugar and Fizzy Drinks. So far so good and not feeling like I'm suffering particularly yet. Biggest thing I missed was a biscuits when I got home from work yesterday eve - but I distracted myself with work around the garden and mowing the lawn till supper time. I might need to find something healthy I can "go to" when I get in from work. . . . johannrissik, gogo@, ChrisF and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave303e Posted April 26, 2018 Share The whole LCHF thing is nothing new, just made popular by a dr in the cape, Antarctic expeditions have been doing it for nearly a century and they not the only ones. Go read about those early glory days, Scott's party's staple food was pemmican... One thing that has popped up a few times in this thread is the fear of Diabetes, yes you can do as much as you can to avoid it and be healthy. We just need to take a moment to consider those who have it, it can't be fun for those living with it reading how scary and bad it is on threads over and over. I have a few friends with type 1 diabetes and they both absolute machines, one day when I am big I want to race as hard as they do. So bear them in mind before shaming it and know that it is tough, but you can still race hard with it. Huge respect for those living with it and keeping healthy and active ChrisF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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