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[b-rad]

 

The guys with the genetic advantage always shine through.

Up to a point. It then comes down to what they do with that advantage or (relatively more) natural skill. Attitude and work ethic are far more important. As I'm sure all of us have seen during our schooling days the most talented simply fail to convert simply because they don't want it enough and or have a *** attitude.

[J Wakefield]

I want to throw you a curveball John.

At what age do you recon if you haven’t broken into a continental team or higher should you be looking at plan B.

I ask because as you know there are many kids in late 20’s early 30’s still trying to break in.What age is too late if at that age you still racing local?

 

At present if you see the demographic of riders at the sharp end its now in those early 20's. Its not now where you take a 22yr old to a GT and let them experience 3 weeks. You now sending them to win. 

 

There is a group now that we haven't seen in the last 5yrs and wont see for another 5 I dont believe at best. This is Bernal, Tadej and Remco. These 3 alone have broken the normal mould and are very special riders we wont see for a while again. So to answer your question is hard overall but there is a big difference from Continental to PC and then WT. 

 

If you want to ride Conti from a local level in a way it doesn't really matter cause you can race Conti and work half day if that is your level. It would be how flexible work is allowing you to travel to races. 

 

The step up comes in PC where there if you not there by early 20's and in the system you chasing a dream. Yes, guys have gone slightly older but that's not a large volume to enter. 

[J Wakefield]

(A) I was trying to point out that some people seem to be very confused as to what your exact role of coach entails and then somehow require that you fulfil a much larger role based on their flawed understanding. Which is obviously wrong. As for Beers we all know he got offered the opportunity that he was because he is an outstanding and highly talented athlete, nothing more nothing less.

 

(B) Seems that you've gone the extra mile for a lot of people who probably didn't deserve it. I am going to take that with the Home schooling decision it was based on giving the kid the best opportunity to succeed at whatever sport he or she was focusing on?

 

I dont like talking about myself tbh so dont really want to go into publicly what I do and try blow smoke up my ass for everyone to read but I have gone far beyond the call of duty for athletes. **** that will make your ass drop out your pants if it came out. 

 

Beers and I have been working together since 2005 and go well well beyond a coach/athlete relationship. I know what colour his **** is in the morning before a ride. Same with others I am luckily enough to work with and maybe one day I will write a tell all book with all the good and bad over the last million years when I call it a day.

 

However, as I said I will never sell a dream to any kid or parent to have them work with me or our company. 

 

[Ozzie NL]

I dont like talking about myself tbh so dont really want to go into publicly what I do and try blow smoke up my ass for everyone to read but I have gone far beyond the call of duty for athletes. **** that will make your ass drop out your pants if it came out. 

 

Beers and I have been working together since 2005 and go well well beyond a coach/athlete relationship. I know what colour his **** is in the morning before a ride. Same with others I am luckily enough to work with and maybe one day I will write a tell all book with all the good and bad over the last million years when I call it a day.

 

However, as I said I will never sell a dream to any kid or parent to have them work with me or our company. 

 

Crap....I was just about to mail you my Racetec results (A Batch nogal!!!) to see if you could get me on the Classics team for next year

[J Wakefield]

Crap....I was just about to mail you my Racetec results (A Batch nogal!!!) to see if you could get me on the Classics team for next year

 

I do sometimes make exceptions for A batch Hubbers like yourself. 

[Popit]

On a serious note John ,

Is Matt Beers still riding ? 

Is there any possibility of him getting to Europe ?

 

Would love to see him on a bigger stage than SA .

[J Wakefield]

On a serious note John ,

Is Matt Beers still riding ? 

Is there any possibility of him getting to Europe ?

 

Would love to see him on a bigger stage than SA .

 

Very much riding and is part of the Nanotime team that has been built up over Covid period. 

[Mntboy]

I dont like talking about myself tbh so dont really want to go into publicly what I do and try blow smoke up my ass for everyone to read but I have gone far beyond the call of duty for athletes. **** that will make your ass drop out your pants if it came out.

 

Beers and I have been working together since 2005 and go well well beyond a coach/athlete relationship. I know what colour his **** is in the morning before a ride. Same with others I am luckily enough to work with and maybe one day I will write a tell all book with all the good and bad over the last million years when I call it a day.

 

However, as I said I will never sell a dream to any kid or parent to have them work with me or our company.

 

Thanks for the insights John.

 

Hoping Beers continues to get great results and that it does eventually lead him to getting into the highest levels of cycling!

[Andymann]

Very much riding and is part of the Nanotime team that has been built up over Covid period. 

 

Have you had much to to with Luke Moir - looks like he is also making some serious progress in Europe?

[babse]

Have you had much to to with Luke Moir - looks like he is also making some serious progress in Europe?

I assume Luke is working with Dr Mike!? Seen them often in Tokai together.

If not hitting intervals up to the Mast, Luke is playing games with his 100mm bike on the jump line.

[J Wakefield]

Have you had much to to with Luke Moir - looks like he is also making some serious progress in Europe?

 

I dont no, but Mike and the company do yes. Mike has been there for about 2yrs or maybe more with him. 

[Kranswurm]

I dont like talking about myself tbh so dont really want to go into publicly what I do and try blow smoke up my ass for everyone to read but I have gone far beyond the call of duty for athletes. **** that will make your ass drop out your pants if it came out. 

 

Beers and I have been working together since 2005 and go well well beyond a coach/athlete relationship. I know what colour his **** is in the morning before a ride. Same with others I am luckily enough to work with and maybe one day I will write a tell all book with all the good and bad over the last million years when I call it a day.

 

However, as I said I will never sell a dream to any kid or parent to have them work with me or our company. 

 

Too much information John :-)

[Gen]

Too much information John :-)

You know scientists and their rodents .. they know everything about their rodents.[emoji6]

 

EDIT..rats to rodents as pointed out..

Edited September 30, 2020 by Gen

[Underachiever]

You know scientists and their rats .. they know everything about their rats.[emoji6]

correction - rodents

[Gen]

correction - rodents

Aah yes rodents..my apologies..will correct[emoji1787]

[DieselnDust]

This is a very good post and observation and not uncommon at all. As an example, last year when Matt Beers did a staigaire gig on the team many thought it was cause I made it happen. It was actually not the case.

 

I was asked by management "tell us about your mountain bike boys" being Alan and Matt. I did so and then had to provide a full package of info of a physiological profile, test data etc. Then they decided to bring Matt over for a gig. Alan had the XC deal so it wouldn't work.

 

From that being public I had a massive influx of stuff from every parent to rider who wanted me to "get my kid on the team" I got CV's, race results, marriage to their 1st daughter and everything in-between. I even got asked to then put their kid on NAD cause Matt was leaving. Some of it was surreal. The best was "if I coach with you, will you make it happen?"

 

No I wont.

 

When you looked at the CV's and profiles the difference is so great that you have to think how they got to the point that they think their kid is this level. I would explain at times how big a gap is and the 1 example was "your son is 20min of Matt on average in results on a 1 day race in SA, the routes are easy and you want to go WT?"

 

I was sent power numbers as a once off best - I explained that your sons best 8min on a road bike up Hels is what Matt does for 30min x 3 on a mtb on gravel. 

 

I was often told I was a **** for this and not being able to help.

 

However, they are still lead to believe and pushed into this situation and to me it is sad and worrying to see but I also do understand it. 

 

Even now since the Tour is over, the communication I have gotten for this type of thing is alot, along with the requests for bottles, yellow jerseys etc from people I do not know or have met.

 

My 2c.

 

 

I can identify with your plight but it must be especially hard off the back of your recent success.

Parents and often the kids have no idea how much work has gone into the achievements of the rider they wish to emulate. They forget that Tadej has been racing a bike since 11yo in a very large pond of very talented other kids. Took him 10 years to achieve a TDF win.

In SA parents seem to think that because little Timmy is good at Hockey that he'll be the first viable SA TdF contender.

This is why I think its great that guys like you can participate in forum discussions to provide insight into what is actually needed.Only onve we have more Jeroen's and John, and Dougies will we have the necessary building blocks in SA to deliver Wt contenders consistently.

Froome is a bit of a one off though