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26 minutes ago, MORNE said:

I was 20 years old and in a virgin active after work. It had a mezzanine level with stairs that came down right at the exit counter. I used to go there with my metal in my ears so wasn't aware of anything around me - obviously.
 

As i decided to leave and come down the stairs, there was a kid roughly my age, busy being resuscitated by other gym goers in the foyer. Was a bit of a shock. I left.
 

The next day i hear he died. He went to the gym not being 100% after the flu apparently - and hart attack as he walked down the stairs.
 

Since that day, I rather sit and wait it out too. 

Young collegue was playing rugby after a "light flu" .... had a heart attack on the field.  Thankfully he survived.

 

Good reason why medical professionals advise rest during a viral infection

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30 minutes ago, MORNE said:

I was 20 years old and in a virgin active after work. It had a mezzanine level with stairs that came down right at the exit counter. I used to go there with my metal in my ears so wasn't aware of anything around me - obviously.
 

As i decided to leave and come down the stairs, there was a kid roughly my age, busy being resuscitated by other gym goers in the foyer. Was a bit of a shock. I left.
 

The next day i hear he died. He went to the gym not being 100% after the flu apparently - and hart attack as he walked down the stairs.
 

Since that day, I rather sit and wait it out too. 

I watched a guy do the same playing a rugby match. ded

It boggles my  mind as to why people still have to ask 'should I rest when I have a confirmed viral infection'... What do they want to hear? 

But apparently me saying 'check the healthline website for general advice and treatment for various viral infections, rest and stay hydrated' is spreading 'misinformation' and I will be responsible for people hurting themselves. 

Riiiiggghhhhhtt

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55 minutes ago, Jewbacca said:

Huh?

What misinformation? Did you click the link? 

I'm pretty sure the Smash It part was sarcastic but given that people have told us about friends that have died right here on the thread your comment was downright insensitive at best and borderline dangerous at worst.

Following that poor attempt at humour up by lumping viruses into a one "rest and hydrate" cure and downplaying the seriousness of covid is terrible advice.

Long covid and damage to lungs, heart etc is a rare but real thing.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Eldron said:

I'm pretty sure the Smash It part was sarcastic but given that people have told us about friends that have died right here on the thread your comment was downright insensitive at best and borderline dangerous at worst.

Following that poor attempt at humour up by lumping viruses into a one "rest and hydrate" cure and downplaying the seriousness of covid is terrible advice.

Long covid and damage to lungs, heart etc is a rare but real thing.

 

 

No, it isn't. I said 'click the link'.

My point is that if you're STILL asking random people on the internet 'should I rest or can I keep training' after ALL of the examples and easily accessible literature, what is it you want to hear? Why are you still asking the question 2 years in? Do you think it's different for you?

Don't start putting things on me. I never once downplayed anything. You are also putting words in my mouth and jumping all over the place. IF you have long COVID, feel crap etc do you not rest? 

You've jumped on some sort of high horse and are trying to press some sort of righteous gesture onto me and I won't have it.

The guy said he has super mild symptoms and feels 'fine', so stop using the extreme to prove whatever point you think you're proving and stay within the lines. 

The link also says 'Get professional medical advice' and my advice was to click the link and see that almost every single course of action involves some form of 'rest'. 

I've lost friends in the last 2 years and this pandemic has decimated my businesses. Am I insensitive? Maybe, but only because people still act as though the general rules don't apply to them and people like you seem to think you're eligible to play captain moral compass while completely missing the point.

Morne got it. Maybe go back and read everything in context before trying to peddle your nonsense.

Anyway, I'm out. If you're still asking 'can I train while sick' in this day and age, you're an idiot

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I'm sure most of us are "addicted" to cycling - something I shouldn't have to explain. What this thread is really a proxy for is: When is it safe for me to ride again? If it were flu and you feel better after a week, personal experience and that of others suggests that you could maybe begin very light exercise again. But this is a novel virus with a new set of rules and in some cases whole new set of strange symptoms... So if you feel fine after a week, and you go for a ride, will you do untold damage on your internal organs? Will you set yourself back 1 month? Will you get long covid?

In many cases, Omicron just gives people a runny nose. I've gone for many a run and ride with a runny nose and there were no consequences. But is it different now that it's covid? Will I die?

It's that uncertainty that people are trying to come to terms with, by asking questions and sharing their experiences. Rest is obviously required, but it's the grey area that people are asking about... how much rest is enough? When is it safe to return? What did the rest of you do and how did it work out?

So let's try and use this thread for that purpose please, that's what the original intent was. Share your experiences of your return to cycling after covid.

Edit: I should add that obviously there is no substitute for the advice of your doctor and that this trumps whatever it was that "your buddy that bike forum" did while recovering.

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Listen to your body. 
 

recovering from a second bout now and scheduled to run a marathon in April , the temptation to jump into training where I left off is high but sanity must prevail so going to start with some walks and then very gentle jogs etc..ease back into it slowly. Ain’t going to win the marathon so no worries there. 

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So this morning one of my 20something year old clients told me he will be giving up his 2022 post on his race team as per team doctor's advice. He had myocarditis after contracting covid and it hasn't eased yet.

This is my second client to lose a contract based on covid - the other one (also a 20something) got covid in (european) spring last year and was ordered off the bike for 3 months. Needless to say it wiped out his 2021 season and his contract wasn't renewed. Covid also reduced the team budget for 2022 so I guess covid double farked him.

Some my other customers decided to skip gran fondos, training camps, spanish riding holidays etc after getting covid.

That said the majority of my clients who got covid took 10 days off and resumed training with little to no side effects.

As the others have said - listen to your body. In general covid is not too bad (and Omicron looks even better) but there is a higher risk of complications, long term after effects etc when compared to illnesses we already know. We also don't fully understand covid yet... Do a full heart check up and get doctor's advice if you suspect anything.

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4 minutes ago, Eldron said:

So this morning one of my 20something year old clients told me he will be giving up his 2022 post on his race team as per team doctor's advice. He had myocarditis after contracting covid and it hasn't eased yet.

We also don't fully understand covid yet... Do a full heart check up and get doctor's advice if you suspect anything.

Wise words...thanks for your input.

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I had Delta last year July, mild symptoms took me about 6 - 8 weeks to get back to normal but each person is different.  Like everyone said take it slow and speak to your GP. Rather save than sorry.

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First day that I’m comfortable on a bike after moderate symptoms and a diagnosis 15 days ago.  Did limited chilled rides on Friday and Sunday and cut the rides short as soon as i felt that I was not fully well.  Just back from a chilled 26.1km beachside ride, lekkeeeerrrr...

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6 hours ago, Jewbacca said:

No, it isn't. I said 'click the link'.

My point is that if you're STILL asking random people on the internet 'should I rest or can I keep training' after ALL of the examples and easily accessible literature, what is it you want to hear? Why are you still asking the question 2 years in? Do you think it's different for you?

Don't start putting things on me. I never once downplayed anything. You are also putting words in my mouth and jumping all over the place. IF you have long COVID, feel crap etc do you not rest? 

You've jumped on some sort of high horse and are trying to press some sort of righteous gesture onto me and I won't have it.

The guy said he has super mild symptoms and feels 'fine', so stop using the extreme to prove whatever point you think you're proving and stay within the lines. 

The link also says 'Get professional medical advice' and my advice was to click the link and see that almost every single course of action involves some form of 'rest'. 

I've lost friends in the last 2 years and this pandemic has decimated my businesses. Am I insensitive? Maybe, but only because people still act as though the general rules don't apply to them and people like you seem to think you're eligible to play captain moral compass while completely missing the point.

Morne got it. Maybe go back and read everything in context before trying to peddle your nonsense.

Anyway, I'm out. If you're still asking 'can I train while sick' in this day and age, you're an idiot

Confirmed. 

People do think you are stupid. We can therefor scientifically deduce that your sarcasm has reached over level 9000!

The real question though:

Is this even your final form?

 

(ok ill let myself out now too. Too many dragonball Z references in there)

😅

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2 hours ago, _David_ said:

I had Delta last year July, mild symptoms took me about 6 - 8 weeks to get back to normal but each person is different.  Like everyone said take it slow and speak to your GP. Rather save than sorry.

Ditto, same with me.  Took 2 months to get to my normal training program.

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6 hours ago, Eldron said:

So this morning one of my 20something year old clients told me he will be giving up his 2022 post on his race team as per team doctor's advice. He had myocarditis after contracting covid and it hasn't eased yet.

This is my second client to lose a contract based on covid - the other one (also a 20something) got covid in (european) spring last year and was ordered off the bike for 3 months. Needless to say it wiped out his 2021 season and his contract wasn't renewed. Covid also reduced the team budget for 2022 so I guess covid double farked him.

Some my other customers decided to skip gran fondos, training camps, spanish riding holidays etc after getting covid.

That said the majority of my clients who got covid took 10 days off and resumed training with little to no side effects.

As the others have said - listen to your body. In general covid is not too bad (and Omicron looks even better) but there is a higher risk of complications, long term after effects etc when compared to illnesses we already know. We also don't fully understand covid yet... Do a full heart check up and get doctor's advice if you suspect anything.

L'Bingo

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My ex worker/mate 

worked for me a few years ago

got covid minimal side effects

40 something healthy, does not drink, thin as vaaaaark, he does smoke zero chronics 

very “healthy”

saw a X-ray of his lungs(looks worse than lance Armstrong that time”on life support

dr says prepare ,,, septicemia setting in to lungs

not good 

 

I know no covid talk or conspiracy,,, all I’m saying is as a relatively “inactive “ person that he is, 

I would strongly suggest going with EASY EASY VAAAARKING EASY back into training

 

forget ANYTHING close to endurance UNLESS U HAVE A V12 man as you mate/speed dial

you are being reckless to say the least

 

 

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