Cyclist down Camps Bay

[Andreas_187]

Do we know if he was given bail? 

[NC_lurker]

2 minutes ago, Andreas_187 said:

Do we know if he was given bail? 

Unfortunately I think we can be pretty sure he'll have been granted bail... I'd really love to be wrong, but history strongly suggests otherwise.

[Prince Albert Cycles]

Bail was set at R15000 .

[cadenceblur]

19 minutes ago, Prince Albert Cycles said:

Bail was set at R15000 .

What a bloody joke, sickening to the core! 😡

[Mamil]

19 minutes ago, cadenceblur said:

What a bloody joke, sickening to the core! 😡

It is absolutely appalling - his hangover will not have worn off before he's in the bars again

[Naidy]

[Andreas_187]

To be continued July 2028...

[ChrisF]

1 minute ago, Andreas_187 said:

To be continued July 2028...

 

Bail ... as long as the accused is not a flight risk, nor interferes with witnesses they always get bail ..... sucks, but we have seen this many times.

 

A question for the legal experts .... why this 6 month delay before the case starts ??

[tinmug]

Strikes me as a little odd that Winde is participating in a PPA ride in support of safer roads when a fair chunk of the blood shed falls squarely on his shoulders. Where is the law enforcement that literally falls under his command? Or am I missing some crucial here?

[Wannabe]

Rumor has it that this POS is a medical Docter from Jozi.

What a role model.

[Bro Derek]

3 hours ago, ChrisF said:

 

Bail ... as long as the accused is not a flight risk, nor interferes with witnesses they always get bail ..... sucks, but we have seen this many times.

 

A question for the legal experts .... why this 6 month delay before the case starts ??

I'm no legal expert but the case needs to be investigated

Blood tests need to be correctly carried out by the correct people in the correct labs, all technical aspects and procedures need to be followed in order for the bloods to be recognized as credible.

Officers/detectives etc will track the vehicles where abouts, the time frames leading up to the scene etc

If there is to be a conviction, this needs to be done faultlessly and meticulously.

Right now there is tragedy and there is fault. For there to be a case there needs to be evidence and proof.

Putting that together in an airtight case takes time

Edited December 17, 2025 by Bro Derek

[Shebeen]

12 hours ago, tinmug said:

Strikes me as a little odd that Winde is participating in a PPA ride in support of safer roads when a fair chunk of the blood shed falls squarely on his shoulders. Where is the law enforcement that literally falls under his command? Or am I missing some crucial here?

Think most of the available levers are to be pulled by the mayor of CoCT, but it is good to have the premier sympathetic to cycling causes.

11 hours ago, Wannabe said:

Rumor has it that this POS is a medical Docter from Jozi.

What a role model.

He has a lot to lose then, and this will be really inconvenient travel wise. But he will be able to afford the best legal defence.

[Prince Albert Cycles]

43 minutes ago, Shebeen said:

Think most of the available levers are to be pulled by the mayor of CoCT, but it is good to have the premier sympathetic to cycling causes.

He has a lot to lose then, and this will be really inconvenient travel wise. But he will be able to afford the best legal defence.

He will have less disposable income for a while besides his travelling and legal expenses it is unlikely that his insurance will cover the damage to his blue murder weapon .

All still fades in comparison with the loss of a life a father a husband a child a brother a friend .

[tubed]

Two things from my side, with all the cameras in that area, there will be a lot of footage available, hopefully if it shows that law enforcement turned a blind eye to what members of the public have been reporting, that gets considered to as it seems that these people should never have been able to drive in their state.

Alan Winde - as much as I sympathise with the outrage directed at him. I don’t think he deserves it, he sits quietly at the Bakoven coffee shop on many mornings in his kit, HE IS ONE OF US, I have no doubt he would do everything he could to stop this, but it is a problem much bigger than him. I have often felt the urge to walk over to him and moan, then I think, what have I done to report a dangerous situation, alert an officer ( who are always in my experience immediately responsive). So I am not negating the rage, let’s just make sure that it’s directed also where it it useful.

[Mook]

13 hours ago, tinmug said:

Strikes me as a little odd that Winde is participating in a PPA ride in support of safer roads when a fair chunk of the blood shed falls squarely on his shoulders. Where is the law enforcement that literally falls under his command? Or am I missing some crucial here?

The problem is not a lack of legislation, but rather positive convictions. Good SC's are found in the private sector at tremendous cost. These suits  usually wipe the floor with the prosecuting skills SA has, hence the low % of convictions.

The NPA is a national body where Winde has zero influence. He is trying very hard to have law enforcement authority delegated from SAPS to the Western Province government.

I believe SAPS/Authorities were made aware of the piss up in the streets by these thugs before this incident happened. 

This is simply a lawless country 🤬 

[Shebeen]

39 minutes ago, Mook said:

The problem is not a lack of legislation, but rather positive convictions. Good SC's are found in the private sector at tremendous cost. These suits  usually wipe the floor with the prosecuting skills SA has, hence the low % of convictions.

The NPA is a national body where Winde has zero influence. He is trying very hard to have law enforcement authority delegated from SAPS to the Western Province government.

I believe SAPS/Authorities were made aware of the piss up in the streets by these thugs before this incident happened. 

This is simply a lawless country 🤬 

Sorry to bring up the simonstown incident again, (it's on the Worcester case as a hit and run), but it should really have been a slam dunk. Then this happened along the way. 

 

Navy employee, Garth Pasha appeared in court and pleaded guilty to two charges. He was originally charged with attempted murder but on Friday the charges were reduced to reckless driving and failing to stop at the scene of an accident. The was no explanation from the state why the charge was changed.

Pasha pleaded guilty to reduced charges of reckless driving and failing to stop and the scene of a crash.

 

 

It appears that blood was not taken, as it was nmot reported in the case - surely this won't be the case here.