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This time of year is always going to get heated in the cradle.
I have ridden with the CycleLab A/B and C1 batches this year.

The pace is high, and they usually stay to the right of the yellow line, as there are so many other riders in the yellow lane.

There are also a lot of novices out there, and some of them are not able to hold their line.  The last ride I did with them was about 4 weeks back, while riding up hill to the circle after Toadbury, a cyclist drifted over outside the yellow lane.  The speed differential was high and most of the CL group were out of the saddle at the time.  When I saw the rider it was too late to even shout/indicate that we were approaching, and I had to change direction suddenly, luckily we were climbing, and the group had thinned out somewhat, otherwise it could have been rough.

 

We all need to remember that we were all novices at some point.  We need to grow a thicker skin (I was shouted at by a rider in yesterdays race for not holding my line, I had no choice, there was a touch of wheels and we all had to take evasive action)

 

We need to get along.

 

I also can't wait for the quieter winter months in the cradle.

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I must say I've never had any issues with cycle lab in the Cradle, the marshal usually shouts out watch left and they they mostly pass with a friendly morning shout.

Once or twice someone has passed very close to me but I blame the individual rather than the club?

 

Although I do get offended when they shout slow rider left  ;)

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I must say I've never had any issues with cycle lab in the Cradle, the marshal usually shouts out watch left and they they mostly pass with a friendly morning shout.

Once or twice someone has passed very close to me but I blame the individual rather than the club?

 

Although I do get offended when they shout slow rider left  ;)

Sometimes the truth hurts :ph34r:

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I marshaled a Cycle Lab group on Saturday. When riding on the front, I warned slower riders that a large group was coming past. There were around 30 of us in the group and often novice riders get scared when such large group comes past.

 

Why don't you come and ride with us one Saturday morning? We cater for all speeds from novice to racing snakes. The marshals work very hard to keep the groups organised and safe. Sure, there are idiots sometimes, but by and large we ride a disciplined and friendly bunch and I have never experienced the kind of aggression the OP is talking about.

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I marshaled a Cycle Lab group on Saturday. When riding on the front, I warned slower riders that a large group was coming past. There were around 30 of us in the group and often novice riders get scared when such large group comes past.

 

Why don't you come and ride with us one Saturday morning? We cater for all speeds from novice to racing snakes. The marshals work very hard to keep the groups organised and safe. Sure, there are idiots sometimes, but by and large we ride a disciplined and friendly bunch and I have never experienced the kind of aggression the OP is talking about.

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Roadies... This is why I ride a mtb. People shouting at each other doesn't sound like fun to me! yeah I know mtb'ers sometimes shout track, but I've noticed most of the time they will sit behind you for a little while to see if you would give track, and only if you don't they'll ask politely if they can pass. At least that's what they do at the back end of races!

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I marshaled a Cycle Lab group on Saturday. When riding on the front, I warned slower riders that a large group was coming past. There were around 30 of us in the group and often novice riders get scared when such large group comes past.

 

 

 

 

 I rode with cycle lab group on Saturday and there was a shout out to a cyclist on our ride by the marshal, but there certainly was no pushing or the likes, and to be fair I am of the opinion the marshal did the right thing because yes, a big group going down can be very dangerous indeed!

 

 

Confession: I have ridden with CL as a member and always had a safe and enjoyable ride, so this is not a dig a CL, but a point in general.

 

As cyclists, we expect to be given space by overtaking vehicles. The slogan talks about 1.5m and we expect that when it is not safe to do so, drivers exercise a bit of patience and wait a second or ten before making a safe overtaking manoeuvre.

 

Should the same not apply to overtaking bunches ?

 

As you say, going down in a big group can be dangerous and often the rider in front is inexperienced  so  if there is not space to leave 1.5m between the rider being overtaken and the rider to the furthest left of the overtaking peloton, should they not slow down and wait until they have sufficient space to overtake safely ?

 

Or is it only motorised vehicles who have to show this consideration ?

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I'm a member of CL and have done a few group rides with them , I ride in the slower groups and have actually chosen to no longer participate as I can't ride for 3 hours listening to a very annoying female voice shouting "2 abreast please ,2 abreast". So I have to say the slower groups are constantly marshaled and I doubt cause an issue like this in the cradle. I just chose to no longer ride with them. However , my faster mates have told me there isn't much marshaling going on in the A groups and the guys kinda do as they please

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Confession: I have ridden with CL as a member and always had a safe and enjoyable ride, so this is not a dig a CL, but a point in general.

 

As cyclists, we expect to be given space by overtaking vehicles. The slogan talks about 1.5m and we expect that when it is not safe to do so, drivers exercise a bit of patience and wait a second or ten before making a safe overtaking manoeuvre.

 

Should the same not apply to overtaking bunches ?

 

As you say, going down in a big group can be dangerous and often the rider in front is inexperienced  so  if there is not space to leave 1.5m between the rider being overtaken and the rider to the furthest left of the overtaking peloton, should they not slow down and wait until they have sufficient space to overtake safely ?

 

Or is it only motorised vehicles who have to show this consideration ?

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