Dopers suck

[Escapee..]

I am confused....

Do you like the dude or not?

 

 

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Small difference between "team pure savage" and "team pure sausage "

 

Jy moet lees seun

[stefmeister]

So here’s the contrarian perspective:

It is insanely hard to make a living as a professional cyclist. If you make a team, you can just scrape by unless you truly make it in which case you might earn about as much as a mediocre soccer player in UK’s second division.

This reality means that the penalty for not making a team is not only missing out on your dream but also on a means to make a living which in turn makes it very attractive to cross the PED line (especially when you know quite a few of those on the team have done so).

 

Not saying doping is or should be acceptable / condoned but do feel it is understandable and could honestly not say I would not cross that line if living their reality.

 

Given that sentiment, I do not have hard feelings towards guys and girls who got caught. They went too far and paid a price and that could have happened to me if I would have been blessed with their type of legs.

Uhm ja, no.

It's a career choice. Same same a teacher can't expect the same income as an actuary. 

[DieselnDust]

a) It's nothing personal against Kevin. The thread is not called "Kevin suck", although by association he is included in the "Doper suck" category. The reason Kevin's name is mentioned is because firstly he cheated, and secondly he chooses to participate in races fun rides (  ) whilst still under suspension.  

 

b) I'm sure it's personal to people that try to earn a living as a pro but are struggling to do so as a result of cheaters having an unfair advantage

 

whilst still under suspension from racing with his Racing License..

 

No Racing License needed for K2C.

 

Way I see it is he "raced" it like all the plebs did. For bragging rights shyts and giggles

[Meezo]

whilst still under suspension from racing with his Racing License..

 

 

No Racing License needed for K2C.

 

Way I see it is he "raced" it like all the plebs did. For bragging rights shyts and giggles

Well done you won the internet

Edited September 27, 2018 by Meezo

[Popit]

I understand the principal of him riding a Non Sanctioned event .

I understand the principal of him showing CSA , WADA and ALL OF US , the middle finger .

 

KE is a box .....

[gtr1]

whilst still under suspension from racing with his Racing License..

 

No Racing License needed for K2C.

 

Way I see it is he "raced" it like all the plebs did. For bragging rights shyts and giggles

I thought he had retired ???

[GaryvdM]

whilst still under suspension from racing with his Racing License..

 

No Racing License needed for K2C.

 

Way I see it is he "raced" it like all the plebs did. For bragging rights shyts and giggles

 

No one is disputing that non sanctioned races can allow dopers to ride in there events if they so choose. What we're saying is they are ass hats for choosing to do so.

Edited September 27, 2018 by GaryvdM

[Jewbacca]

whilst still under suspension from racing with his Racing License..

 

No Racing License needed for K2C.

 

Way I see it is he "raced" it like all the plebs did. For bragging rights shyts and giggles

It's a bit like like being banned from casino's for card counting, then turning up at the old age home and fleecing all the old codgers of their pension... Is it illegal, no.

 

Is it a really crap thing to do, yes.

 

Ok maybe it's not the same but by law it's not wrong, but if you own a moral compass it's seriously not right.

 

You can argue semantics all you want, but at the end of the day the guy cheated, lied and eventually got caught, only to be allowed to continue doing what he has been sanctioned (read punished) for in the first place via a loophole.

 

It's meh

 

If you don't see that then bro, the rabbit hole is a slippery slope 

Edited September 27, 2018 by Jewbacca

[Skubarra]

It's a bit like like being banned from casino's for card counting, then turning up at the old age home and fleecing all the old codgers of their pension... Is it illegal, no.

 

Is it a really crap thing to do, yes.

 

Ok maybe it's not the same but by law it's not wrong, but if you own a moral compass it's seriously not right.

 

You can argue semantics all you want, but at the end of the day the guy cheated, lied and eventually got caught, only to be allowed to continue doing what he has been sanctioned (read punished) for in the first place via a loophole.

 

It's meh

 

If you don't see that then bro, the rabbit hole is a slippery slope 

 

My issue is more with the race organisers than with Kevin. I don't really expect better of him since he is a convicted cheat that never even tried to appear remorseful.

 

The organisers though, even though their race is not sanctioned, should have thought about the message sent to the cycling community at large by letting someone serving out a doping sentence feature prominently in their race. Given that he is a prominent figure in the Knysna cycling community I cannot think that this was just an innocent oversight.

 

I remember for the 2015 Knysna Cycle Tour the organisers were featuring his training plans on their website even after he was convicted, when people complained on social media they took it down.

[DieselnDust]

It's a bit like like being banned from casino's for card counting, then turning up at the old age home and fleecing all the old codgers of their pension... Is it illegal, no.

 

Is it a really crap thing to do, yes.

 

Ok maybe it's not the same but by law it's not wrong, but if you own a moral compass it's seriously not right.

 

You can argue semantics all you want, but at the end of the day the guy cheated, lied and eventually got caught, only to be allowed to continue doing what he has been sanctioned (read punished) for in the first place via a loophole.

 

It's meh

 

If you don't see that then bro, the rabbit hole is a slippery slope

 

 

Shame man I hope you weren’t beaten by Kevin at K2C. Moving up from 321 to 320 is really going to help with your sponsor quest for Cape Epic.

 

Flexing pensioners or the their pension in a bingo match ....rotflmao , such drama and no your point is not vais because in both your cases financial fraud is taking place.

But it’s clear emotions are clouding your judgement.

No professional fun riders were harmed by Kevin on his gravel bike at K2C. Surprised you not trying to crucify the poor guy for an unfair advantage.

 

Seriously the only slippery slope here is the thin arguments masquerading as moral compass lol

[GaryvdM]

Shame man I hope you weren’t beaten by Kevin at K2C. Moving up from 321 to 320 is really going to help with your sponsor quest for Cape Epic.

 

Flexing pensioners or the their pension in a bingo match ....rotflmao , such drama and no your point is not vais because in both your cases financial fraud is taking place.

But it’s clear emotions are clouding your judgement.

No professional fun riders were harmed by Kevin on his gravel bike at K2C. Surprised you not trying to crucify the poor guy for an unfair advantage.

 

Seriously the only slippery slope here is the thin arguments masquerading as moral compass lol

 

Wow. What you are say is that it perfectly ok to cheat and lie.

Edited September 27, 2018 by GaryvdM

[Eldron]

This is one of those "legally correct but morally wrong" situations I hate.

 

You doped and were bust. You shat on your golden goose. Get out and stay out.

[Jewbacca]

Shame man I hope you weren’t beaten by Kevin at K2C. Moving up from 321 to 320 is really going to help with your sponsor quest for Cape Epic.

 

Flexing pensioners or the their pension in a bingo match ....rotflmao , such drama and no your point is not vais because in both your cases financial fraud is taking place.

But it’s clear emotions are clouding your judgement.

No professional fun riders were harmed by Kevin on his gravel bike at K2C. Surprised you not trying to crucify the poor guy for an unfair advantage.

 

Seriously the only slippery slope here is the thin arguments masquerading as moral compass lol

Cool... If that's your stance then I will respect that without attacking you personally.

 

However, by your advocating that cheating, lying, fraud and a host of other abhorrent things be allowed to escape punishment, you are no longer worth another second of my time.

[DieselnDust]

Wow. What you are say is that it perfectly ok to cheat and lie.

 

It would appear the problem is your logic circuits have short circuited....

Feels like a conversation with Trump.

 

Answer this question? Is Kevin Evans participating in events to win prize money or to enjoy riding his bike ?

Now don’t make up stories like you are trying to do to me. Be honest

[Quagga]

It would appear the problem is your logic circuits have short circuited....

Feels like a conversation with Trump.

 

Answer this question? Is Kevin Evans participating in events to win prize money or to enjoy riding his bike ?

Now don’t make up stories like you are trying to do to me. Be honest

So you saying there was NOTHING to win at K2C? 

 

If KE did win, you saying he would not have received anything?

 

HMMM

[DieselnDust]

Cool... If that's your stance then I will respect that without attacking you personally.

 

However, by your advocating that cheating, lying, fraud and a host of other abhorrent things be allowed to escape punishment, you are no longer worth another second of my time.

Convicted and serving time. Riding a fun ride isn’t against his sanction.

 

Let this percolate for a while. Logic will return

Edited September 27, 2018 by DieselnDust