M L Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 Lately I have seen a lot of "*Price Drop*" adds on the classifieds. I also buy and sell quite a lot and find it more difficult than a few years ago to get buyers. It really seems as if South Africans are in a bit of a squeeze (the classifieds is obviously not a very good representation of the average SA consumer). Would really like to see the results on a poll, so vote! corriekuilder and LOCO4360 2
Jewbacca Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 I do also think people have started to completely over value their 2nd hand products. I get that it's now more difficult to subsidise a new build with the price hikes, but 2nd hand from 2013 is still 2nd hand from 2013. A lot has evolved really quickly between 2015 and now and things are not just used but also outdated and 'old tech'. I'm not saying this is the case on ALL sales, just something I have noticed. I do think most guys and gals in SA are feeling the pinch. It gets more and more expensive to live here and we get less and less from our government. Interesting thread. Funnily enough I usually sell things really quickly but have had a very niche frame for sale for ages which I can't move. I do agree though that a tendency to low ball has crept in. Every time I open an add I get a flood of messages at ridiculous times, not one of them saying 'hi it's Mark/John/Peter here..' just saying 'I will give you 800 bucks'... Well no HDW, LOCO4360, Vetplant and 31 others 34
Vetplant Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 I think people still want to tinker and upgrade as always, but there is a definite squeeze on the budgets. So I find you need to price your item somewhat aggressively to get a bite. Luckily I only try to sell replaced stuff to offset the price of the new item I bought, I am not in the business to make money, those people might be feeling the pinch where it hurts more. Sydd, Malpiet, BigDL and 2 others 5
Chingy182 Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 Couldn't agree more. I also think the recent issue with scammers on the hub have created some trust issues and soured some transactions JJason, henk, Bbbbbbbb and 1 other 4
HDW Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 I do also think people have started to completely over value their 2nd hand products. This, completely. People get either sentimental or stingy, and way over value their items. Sell it at a reasonable price, and you should get offers. Easy. Imtiyaaz Van Der Hoven, Kalahari Vegmot, Capricorn and 9 others 12
shaper Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 Price of new bikes and parts is becoming exhorbitant.... sellers are trying to push their prices without success. Add to this that there is not a lot of disposable income around at the moment (companies are still laying of people and the job market not looking so good) Result is it's a buyers market and prices are being dropped. You only have to keep an eye on the property market to see this slickjay007 1
Mawbs Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 personally i won't buy anything that i can't go and see..feel ..so local only. that does limit choices but sadly there are just too many dodgy things going on Long Wheel Base, Rust Never Sleeps, slickjay007 and 7 others 10
Donovan Le Cok Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 I have also noticed this lately. Takes a bit longer to sell things now. Could also just be time of year.
dasilvarsa Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 Prices are too high generally. Sven137, henk and Woody01 3
PygaSchmyga Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 very interesting thread. I wonder if there are any cycling "fashion" trends affecting sales either. Are different types or styles of riding affecting sales?
CASSIE1975 Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 This, completely. People get either sentimental or stingy, and way over value their items. Sell it at a reasonable price, and you should get offers. Easy. I do agree with this completely... Saw a bike on The Hub a few weeks ago for R20k and it was a year older than my wife's bike which we sold 3 years ago for R8,5k...apparently the bike shop said it's worth R20k Also saw another add for a 2nd hand FD 7900 (10-speed) being sold for more than a new 11-speed FD...apparently if it says DURA ACE it's worth any asking price But if you know the 2nd hand market price then you would not be caught out and will either move along and wait for another item at a market related price, or offer the person what you think it is worth... Also "that time of the year" and will be easier to sell something closer to 94.7 or Argus times (Road bike related)...MTB is fairly whole year round type of market, although some people hibernate a little Also less disposable income around these days...but then again there are R80k +++ bikes being sold HDW and Woody01 2
M L Posted May 16, 2018 Author Posted May 16, 2018 I do also think people have started to completely over value their 2nd hand products. I get that it's now more difficult to subsidise a new build with the price hikes, but 2nd hand from 2013 is still 2nd hand from 2013. A lot has evolved really quickly between 2015 and now and things are not just used but also outdated and 'old tech'. I'm not saying this is the case on ALL sales, just something I have noticed. I do think most guys and gals in SA are feeling the pinch. It gets more and more expensive to live here and we get less and less from our government. Interesting thread. Funnily enough I usually sell things really quickly but have had a very niche frame for sale for ages which I can't move. I do agree though that a tendency to low ball has crept in. Every time I open an add I get a flood of messages at ridiculous times, not one of them saying 'hi it's Mark/John/Peter here..' just saying 'I will give you 800 bucks'... Well no I agree. If I don't state "not neg" I get these sms's, "I will give you x*". *x = 50% of asking price. No name, no introduction nothing. Spoke101, Tatt, Tabula Rasa and 1 other 4
M L Posted May 16, 2018 Author Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) This, completely. People get either sentimental or stingy, and way over value their items. Sell it at a reasonable price, and you should get offers. Easy.That is funny enough not the case for me. I feel that some items you really can't even ask a fair second hand price. But then you get items such as shimano brakes that sell very easily at prices close to the new product. Even older shimano XT and SLX brakes sell for prices that you would have paid for the new item, 3 years ago. Edited May 16, 2018 by M L HDW 1
FirstV8 Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 I bought a 2nd hand Ghost in excellent condition from a friend and promised myself that i would fund my start up cycling ( stopped 20 years ago ) by selling off all my retro bike stuff , bike , bars . shoes , jerseys , pedals , toe clips , gear shifters etc you name it i had it available .I priced every thing not at replacement value but what i would pay for those parts . I sold 99% of what i advertised and only have a 6 speed cluster and BB bearing set left . I recouped about R15,000 which i used buy modern equipment and new clothing . No its not difficult if you price right and are not negotiable . Flatdog7, Eppie, GSG and 2 others 5
Chingy182 Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 I agree. If I don't state "not neg" I get these sms's, "I will give you x*". *x = 50% of asking price. No name, no introduction nothing. I just reply with, "do you want the front half or the back half of the bike" Tabula Rasa, Long Wheel Base, mecheng89 and 7 others 10
FirstV8 Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 very interesting thread. I wonder if there are any cycling "fashion" trends affecting sales either. Are different types or styles of riding affecting sales? Selling retro and old bike spares and clothing apparel is a niche market but with a lot of collectors out there looking and prepared to pay only the right price .
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