MORNE Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) It's harder to just use the classifieds with the new update, and the turnover of new ads seems to have taken a massive dive at the same time...totally with you on this. I used to like window browsing in there due to the ease and flow of it all...now is just a chore. my honest opinion is that they will lose some of the spontaneous/impulse buys because of this. Edited December 5, 2019 by morneS555 Cyclewizz 1
Steven Knoetze (sk27) Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 Just a Q, so if the guy comes over, looks at it or asks about the condition online / message then does that make the same lowball offer okay?  Like my post said, it all depends on how the lowball offer is made, the context.If the bike is being viewed and it is in prestine condition but you feel the bike is overpriced then that can be discussed, but if it is prestine and you only have the lower amount discuss it that way. A compromise on spec could be made possibly.Same with an online offer, "Hi, I am interested in the bike but only have Rxxx could we still look at discussing a deal" as opposed to "Cool bike, I can offer you Rxxx". T-Bob and Danger Dassie 2
T-Bob Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 Like my post said, it all depends on how the lowball offer is made, the context.If the bike is being viewed and it is in prestine condition but you feel the bike is overpriced then that can be discussed, but if it is prestine and you only have the lower amount discuss it that way. A compromise on spec could be made possibly.Same with an online offer, "Hi, I am interested in the bike but only have Rxxx could we still look at discussing a deal" as opposed to "Cool bike, I can offer you Rxxx". Thanks, I just wanted to see what the motivation was between the two different approaches were as at the end of the day it's the same offer we're theoretically talking about but it's more in the approach to you as a seller that would make all the difference. Steven Knoetze (sk27) 1
Chavo Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 I work on the assumption that whatever I'm selling is worth half its original value by default. Even if it has (by my account) seen relatively little use. The second hand bicycle (whether a whole bike or its individual components) market is rarely a place to recoup or make money. From my experience, the second hand market is a place to try score a bargain (myself included in this expectation). If you want a higher price that is closer to original market value, expect to sit with the item for a while.Â
Matt Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 It's harder to just use the classifieds with the new update, and the turnover of new ads seems to have taken a massive dive at the same time...I'm interested to hear what gives you this perception? Looking at the data we're certainly not seeing this. So far this week 990 new ads have been posted. Monday saw 360 new ads posted, that's the highest daily number of ads in the last 30 days.Tuesday and Wednesday saw 267 and 246 new ads posted, beating our 30 day daily average of 230 new ads.  totally with you on this. I used to like window browsing in there due to the ease and flow of it all...now is just a chore. my honest opinion is that they will lose some of the spontaneous/impulse buys because of this.We're working on a few things to address some of the common navigation complaints.Â
nathrix Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 I'm interested to hear what gives you this perception? Looking at the data we're certainly not seeing this. So far this week 990 new ads have been posted. Monday saw 360 new ads posted, that's the highest daily number of ads in the last 30 days.Tuesday and Wednesday saw 267 and 246 new ads posted, beating our 30 day daily average of 230 new ads.  We're working on a few things to address some of the common navigation complaints.  Would also be interesting to see the figures regarding how many ads were purchased this year to promote ads(Highlighted ads, Homepage Ads and/or Top Ads)
Jewbacca Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 I like the new site. There will obviously be some teething issues but it works. The filters on some just run 'backwards' to the old site, but you get there in the same number of clicks.  Don't be scared of change guys... See it as an early holiday. matthieup and Matt 2
Hairy Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 I like the new site. There will obviously be some teething issues but it works. The filters on some just run 'backwards' to the old site, but you get there in the same number of clicks.  Don't be scared of change guys... See it as an early holiday.must be the same guys that hung onto 26'ers and Crossmarks well past their sell by dates Kranswurm, Matt, BigDL and 1 other 4
robbybzgo Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 I bought two items about two weeks ago (a bike and wheelset)and two more items this week (Polar watch and saddle). I'm having no problems using the new layout/interface - there were a few teething problems.I've still got to figure a few things out but that will come in time (just like a new girlfriend)! Times are tough and money is tight but on all the above items I haggled and got a very good price.The sellers seemed happy to let them go at the agreed prices. Agreed that if you hold on to old technology goods for too long, the demand drops steeply! BikeHub rocks...keep up the good work! Vetplant, Matt and BigDL 3
MORNE Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) I like the new site. There will obviously be some teething issues but it works. The filters on some just run 'backwards' to the old site, but you get there in the same number of clicks. Don't be scared of change guys... See it as an early holiday.Obviously it works, we’re here using it. How good it works is questionable. Change for the sake of change? Ill use the example again...windows 8 was a massive failure for a reason and it had nothing to do with the workings of windows itself...it was a UX/UI design issue. It works and the potential is there obviously...it just doesn't feel well executed and is not well optimized. cant post it in the admin thread so ill do it here...classic case of "here's a widget...lets use the widget...even though it ads absolutely nothing....except for drunk hubbers who aim for the sidebar but hit the ribbon instead, same function....just page clutter. =  bad design Edited December 5, 2019 by morneS555
Kranswurm Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 must be the same guys that hung onto 26'ers and Crossmarks well past their sell by dates I gave away a free set of Crossmarks when I sold my 26 Hairy 1
King_Crispy Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 Why have the developers removed the sms capability on the for sale items?Big step backwards imho
Nick Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 Why have the developers removed the sms capability on the for sale items?Big step backwards imho Do you mean the show phone number button? It's there. Although it's not currently showing on adverts imported from the old site unless sellers update their adverts. These will be flushed out in 30 days (from Monday) when the last of the old site adverts expire. Otherwise, it's up to the seller to elect to show it or not.
Jewbacca Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) Obviously it works, we’re here using it. How good it works is questionable. Change for the sake of change? Ill use the example again...windows 8 was a massive failure for a reason and it had nothing to do with the workings of windows itself...it was a UX/UI design issue. It works and the potential is there obviously...it just doesn't feel well executed and is not well optimized. cant post it in the admin thread so ill do it here...classic case of "here's a widget...lets use the widget...even though it ads absolutely nothing....except for drunk hubbers who aim for the sidebar but hit the ribbon instead, same function....just page clutter. =  bad designI disagree. Bikehub was due a change. It is also a massive back office up date. Like anything, the nuances will be developed over time as beta testing can't imitate the flow of real life user interface. As stuff from the old site filters out and things are uploaded using the new filters (roughly 30 days I think) we will start seeing that it IS going to be better in the long run.  I think you're being a negative nancy..... Edited December 5, 2019 by Jewbacca BigDL 1
MORNE Posted December 6, 2019 Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) I disagree. Bikehub was due a change. It is also a massive back office up date. Like anything, the nuances will be developed over time as beta testing can't imitate the flow of real life user interface. As stuff from the old site filters out and things are uploaded using the new filters (roughly 30 days I think) we will start seeing that it IS going to be better in the long run.  I think you're being a negative nancy..... Hardly negative, im not opposing the change.m for the sake of being negative..i’m just brutally honest in general. Its one of my personality traits haha. I’ll always tell you how it is straits up. If they wont accept honest critique about the usability of the site they are obviously beta testing still - it wont be better in the long run. They earn money from us using it. We are not getting paid for the beta testing and also didnt sign up for it so can either stay away and wait for it to be better in march 2020 or come here now and hurt some feelings by being brutally honest and get it sorted faster. If nobody did it it ( point out mild usability annoyances) it would stay broken. Thats hardly being negative imo. Id go so far to say that it shows that i care more than some of the others who fall in line and just accept what they get even if its broken. Edited December 6, 2019 by morneS555 Jewbacca 1
King_Crispy Posted December 6, 2019 Posted December 6, 2019 Hardly negative, im not opposing the change.m for the sake of being negative..i’m just brutally honest in general. Its one of my personality traits haha. I’ll always tell you how it is straits up. If they wont accept honest critique about the usability of the site they are obviously beta testing still - it wont be better in the long run. They earn money from us using it. We are not getting paid for the beta testing and also didnt sign up for it so can either stay away and wait for it to be better in march 2020 or come here now and hurt some feelings by being brutally honest and get it sorted faster. If nobody did it it ( point out mild usability annoyances) it would stay broken.Thats hardly being negative imo. Id go so far to say that it shows that i care more than some of the others who fall in line and just accept what they get even if its broken.I am of the same opinion.I'm often criticized for being negative when all I'm really after is improvement. Positive change.If one keeps quiet and no opinions are voiced, how can one's situation improve?Â
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