PhilipV Posted July 25, 2018 Share Regardless of the versions from either side there is once again a point to be made around the level of technical competency. Most wouldn't take their car to an unqualified motor mechanic. Why would they then take their bicycle to an unqualified mechanic? A national and international qualification for bicycle mechanics exists in SA. The customer should be asking "is my/the shop's mechanic qualified?".I don't care what my lbs mechanics qualifications are. I've gotten to know him over the years and his care and attention to detail means I drop my bike off there without a care. (Daryn at Williams Bike Shop) I'll trust a self thought mech like him any day above someone with a qualification that I don't know. Mathieu_Schneuwly, V18, Hairy and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Tracker Posted July 25, 2018 Share More importantly, after an hour of wrestling with a camp chair I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be able to pop it out like that dude from GOT in the Uber cool gif that was posted earlier. #dayruined #backtobed Edited July 25, 2018 by Dirt Tracker peetwindhoek, Pure Savage, HOEKVLAG and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipV Posted July 25, 2018 Share Considering some bikes are worth more than cars it’s strange the industry hasn’t adopted this already. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNaah , bikes are way less complex than cars. And I don't think our bike industry is mature enough to support this. Kom and GLuvsMtb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PygaSchmyga Posted July 25, 2018 Share Sorry to say, but both parties in this matter give me an uncomfortable feeling, and their interactions in this thread don't make it any better. Maybe we just have a case of knuckleheads on both sides, and frankly, they deserve each other? peetwindhoek, PhilipV and stefmeister 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefmeister Posted July 25, 2018 Share I feel the following is really important, not just for this thread but Bikehub in general; a lot As you were.... Foe amusement sake I shall refer you to this old gem...http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html Uni 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmarc Posted July 25, 2018 Share Regardless of the versions from either side there is once again a point to be made around the level of technical competency. Most wouldn't take their car to an unqualified motor mechanic. Why would they then take their bicycle to an unqualified mechanic? A national and international qualification for bicycle mechanics exists in SA. The customer should be asking "is my/the shop's mechanic qualified?". This was my point on a different thread, the qualification exists and a lot of work has been done to make it a formal trade or qualification in this country. the problem is most bike shops (No all, but the majority) don't recognize the value or importance of putting their mechanics through a formal trade. At best they have spanner flippers who generally can fix a bike, but lack certain skills and knowledge when it comes to some of the finer details of bike repair. Replacing bearings a point in case. Like any workshop, the mechanics need to be qualified under the general qualification of their trade, but then be constantly trained and up-skilled on the constant evolving of technology of the industry. So here's a message to all you bike shop owners If your spanner flipper is not qualified and/or being constantly up-skilled he should not be allowed to work on bikes unsupervised - No matter how good you or he may think he is. If your staff, both in the workshop and the retail floor, have not been trained or have the skill in the basic principals of customer retention, then better you start training them or getting rid of them, or you be spending more time defending them than running a business. Kom, linuxlg, AntonG and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonG Posted July 25, 2018 Share My view: The customer may not always be right but they are always the customer. Poorly handled from Bike Addict. **** attitude and **** approach to resolve this. ians H2Sport, MTBRIDER1234 and ChUkKy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni Posted July 25, 2018 Share on an aside...those that don't tinker themselves, you take your bike in and you don't really do an assessment of the condition beforehand or your components ... maybe bike shops should start doing it like a car service they go around noting damages when you hand the car over and sign for it - cover themselves and the client, or the client can tick the checkbox waiver if they can't be arsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi Pollard Posted July 25, 2018 Share Zein can comment on above chips etcThat is really crap workmanship, if they caused that when replacing pivot bearings. Another reason I do my own work on my bike Kom and Skylark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted July 25, 2018 Share I feel the following is really important, not just for this thread but Bikehub in general; a lot As you were.... Foe amusement sake I shall refer you to this old gem...http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html Pulling the grammar nazi card with that post is like complaining about a car accident whilst causing a train wreck! Odinson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoke101 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Regardless of the versions from either side there is once again a point to be made around the level of technical competency. Most wouldn't take their car to an unqualified motor mechanic. Why would they then take their bicycle to an unqualified mechanic? A national and international qualification for bicycle mechanics exists in SA. The customer should be asking "is my/the shop's mechanic qualified?". Have you looked at what it costs to get certified? In order for a shop or individual to recoup that sort of cost the customer is going to be paying vehicle labour rates. Skylark and Sportopia Cycles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted July 25, 2018 Share I don't care what my lbs mechanics qualifications are. I've gotten to know him over the years and his care and attention to detail means I drop my bike off there without a care. (Daryn at Williams Bike Shop) I'll trust a self thought mech like him any day above someone with a qualification that I don't know.Now that brings back in a very simple formula for Williams Bike Shop! I trust William 100% ----> William would only employ staff he trusts 100% ------> therefore I would trust his staff 100% Kom and Patchelicious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoke101 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Also on a side note.I'm not sure I'd trust a shop that doesn't know the difference between a Fork and a Shock. But maybe it's lost in translation thing Thermophage and Skylark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted July 25, 2018 Share Also on a side note.I'm not sure I'd trust a shop that doesn't know the difference between a Fork and a Shock. But maybe it's lost in translation thing Well they are from Malmesbury.... PygaSchmyga, MTBRIDER1234 and RoddieJ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacBrand Posted July 25, 2018 Share I took my bike to a shop here in the CBD to get wheels trued. Before taking the bike they inspected it in front of me (seems to be their policy, as they have a comprehensive check list to fill in before work starts). This covers the bike shop.On the other hand, my regular shop has had my business since opening their doors, and I just leave my bike there (sometimes without even seeing the owner) ChUkKy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted July 25, 2018 Share I took my bike to a shop here in the CBD to get wheels trued. Before taking the bike they inspected it in front of me (seems to be their policy, as they have a comprehensive check list to fill in before work starts). This covers the bike shop.On the other hand, my regular shop has had my business since opening their doors, and I just leave my bike there (sometimes without even seeing the owner)you have two options in the CBD ... one on the Foreshore and one higher up on Bree Str ... sounds to me like you were at the Bree Str option? JacBrand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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