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a)have you ridden and e-bike, and decided that they are just schmarketing and actually not that cool.

b)have you read your own signature recently?because this e-bike debate is VERY much like the wheelsize one...

 

There is no debate - ride what the **** you feel like... Skill and fitness trump wheel size 24/7.

 

 

ps. pretty cool that you got trump in your sig before admin banned the word!

 

Actually, I have ridden a Levo. They are great. I love things with engines. I used to have a big fat 2 stroke MX bike and a road motor bike. I am even thinking of an eBike as a commuter one day. Or maybe I'll just buy a second hand street moto and have even more fun :-). 

 

The point I was trying to make is that for these things to sell, manufacturers have had to market them in a way that is both appealing and socially and environmentally acceptable. Its worked up to a point but in the USA they have already been banned from MTB trails in some areas. I am not sure exactly what the reasoning is behind that or whether this will be relaxed as they become more accepted over there. Imagine if they were called "MotorMTB's"? Would we be having this debate at all? 

 

I don't think this debate has anything in common with a wheel size debate. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that an eBike makes you faster up hill. And you'll probably also get down before the bike riding guy even if he has more skill than you because you feel fresh and made up millions of seconds on the uphill.   

 

I will adjust my signature if you like? How about...

 

"Ride what the **** you feel like but my 250w eBike will trump your skill, fitness and wheel size, 24/7" 

 

Yeah!

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So much rationalising on the eletric motor cycle (see that?) side.  If it's no big deal, just own it bro. It's almost like you're somewhat ashamed of it?

 

It's like this "buff guy who is natural > buff guy on juice but owns it > buff guy on roids and swears he's natural"  

 

I only have an issue with the last guy. 

 

Fact is the bike industry is running out of variations of the same product to sell and keep the wheels turning. Enter the marketing team to convince you that despite thousands of unfit, fat, old, injured people finding ways to get into the sport and improve themselves to levels where they can ride when and where they want for literally decades, THIS product will finally open the sport to them. 

 

Cool story.

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So much rationalising on the eletric motor cycle (see that?) side. If it's no big deal, just own it bro. It's almost like you're somewhat ashamed of it?

 

It's like this "buff guy who is natural > buff guy on juice but owns it > buff guy on roids and swears he's natural"

 

I only have an issue with the last guy.

 

Fact is the bike industry is running out of variations of the same product to sell and keep the wheels turning. Enter the marketing team to convince you that despite thousands of unfit, fat, old, injured people finding ways to get into the sport and improve themselves to levels where they can ride when and where they want for literally decades, THIS product will finally open the sport to them.

 

Cool story.

I do find that aspect of the discussion quite amusing - emotorbikers posting to tell us that emotorbikes don't really help that much and are comparable to "guys with 8kg super bikes" and that this discussion is similar to the wheel size debate.

 

Old commuters aside I don't recall seeing a single emotorbiker that looked remotely like they actually needed one.

 

My experience suggests most buyers are middle aged men who want to go faster with less effort. Knock yourselves out I say. Don't race them and everyone is happy (aside from the deserved scorn of course ????????).

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I do find that aspect of the discussion quite amusing - emotorbikers posting to tell us that emotorbikes don't really help that much and are comparable to "guys with 8kg super bikes" and that this discussion is similar to the wheel size debate.

 

Old commuters aside I don't recall seeing a single emotorbiker that looked remotely like they actually needed one.

 

My experience suggests most buyers are middle aged men who want to go faster with less effort. Knock yourselves out I say. Don't race them and everyone is happy (aside from the deserved scorn of course ????????).

Maybe it's my Puritan upbringing or my competitive nature, but trying to go faster with less effort is like trying to find a g-spot with an uppercut. You might find what you're looking for but the achievement may not be appreciated.
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Maybe it's my Puritan upbringing or my competitive nature, but trying to go faster with less effort is like trying to find a g-spot with an uppercut. You might find what you're looking for but the achievement may not be appreciated.

caution. May result in fisti(ng)cuffs. 

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Maybe it's my Puritan upbringing or my competitive nature, but trying to go faster with less effort is like trying to find a g-spot with an uppercut. You might find what you're looking for but the achievement may not be appreciated.

That is one of the most obtuse and accurate analogies I've read in a while! Bravo sir!

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