FootballingCyclist Posted April 16, 2021 Share Well, SAIDS is DEF still working late it seems.. Andrew Steer, BigDL, Sid the Sloth and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Dassie Posted April 16, 2021 Share Good times hey.. I remember thatYip .... the full original Q&A - http://www.treadmtb.co.za/10-burning-questions-with-max-knox/ BigDL and Gen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnekop Posted April 16, 2021 Share Well, SAIDS is DEF still working late it seems..And we'll only hear about the result in 2 years................. FootballingCyclist and Long Wheel Base 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonKid Posted April 16, 2021 Share Ek Juice f@k@l....Jy juice Liquifruit!!!! Vetplant, BigDL and FootballingCyclist 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetplant Posted April 16, 2021 Share Jy juice Liquifruit!!!!Actually lolled at that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted April 16, 2021 Share Mickey and Mallory?Haha.Love Mickey and Marroly. BigDL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Dassie Posted April 16, 2021 Share I'm sure there probably were, but that one came to mind as I was there on the day, and when his name was announced, I thought "Wasn't he banned a few months ago?" Like Danger Dassie said, maybe there was a reduction, but we don't know.Coming back to this since Legs4HillsWhereItsFlat couldn't be bothered to answer. I remembered someone discussing that this specific case actually was reduced, because lo and behold. A SAIDS panel upheld his appeal.Of course it didn't help that by this time he'd been tarred and feathered and CSA hadn't communicated this detail after the fact either at the time. Sporting code bodies are always notified. I emailed SAIDS querying wether or not there was an update, they confirmed the same day along with all the documentation that there was. Sanction was reduced from 18 months to 6 months. The site has also been updated to reflect this, according to SAIDS there was a database migration approx 2 years ago and some updated cases don't show up. But all info is recorded and backed up in anycase, so if there is a query the front end on the site is updated. Makes for sombre reading: https://drugfreesport.org.za/cases/?athlete_name=tyrone+white Initial hearing: https://drugfreesport.org.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/SAIDS-vs-Tyronne-White.pdf Appeal: https://drugfreesport.org.za/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Tyronne-White-vs-SAIDS-Appeal-Decision.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted April 16, 2021 Share How do you guys feel when you lose a strava kom to a guy who's been guilty of and served their ban for doping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted April 16, 2021 Share Coming back to this since Legs4HillsWhereItsFlat couldn't be bothered to answer. I remembered someone discussing that this specific case actually was reduced, because lo and behold. A SAIDS panel upheld his appeal.Of course it didn't help that by this time he'd been tarred and feathered and CSA hadn't communicated this detail after the fact either at the time. Sporting code bodies are always notified. I emailed SAIDS querying wether or not there was an update, they confirmed the same day along with all the documentation that there was. Sanction was reduced from 18 months to 6 months. The site has also been updated to reflect this, according to SAIDS there was a database migration approx 2 years ago and some updated cases don't show up. But all info is recorded and backed up in anycase, so if there is a query the front end on the site is updated. Makes for sombre reading: https://drugfreesport.org.za/cases/?athlete_name=tyrone+white Initial hearing: https://drugfreesport.org.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/SAIDS-vs-Tyronne-White.pdf Appeal: https://drugfreesport.org.za/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Tyronne-White-vs-SAIDS-Appeal-Decision.pdfhang on a second..he got an IV drip for being dehydrated...isn't that a needle and therefore verboten? Danger Dassie and FootballingCyclist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted April 16, 2021 Share hang on a second..he got an IV drip for being dehydrated...isn't that a needle and therefore verboten? Apparently it is fine ... as long you got it in a TUEsday .... otherwise you may get a fine .... which is also fine .... so fine either way .... DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Dassie Posted April 16, 2021 Share hang on a second..he got an IV drip for being dehydrated...isn't that a needle and therefore verboten?Correct, it is covered in both hearings.In the case of a medical IV drip administered by a medical professional in an event though, there is provision to apply for a retrospective TUE as theres a demonstrable medical need. Think what's more telling is the doctor's description of events, copping to the confusion/distracted and not being able to provide required documents because of a dispute with the medical services provider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted April 16, 2021 Share How do you guys feel when you lose a strava kom to a guy who's been guilty of and served their ban for doping?“lose a strava kom”Where I live there are no danger of that happening Edited April 16, 2021 by SwissVan Underachiever, gummibear, TNT1 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted April 16, 2021 Share well then SAIDS will have a field day in the medical tent at the Cape Epic or any other long stage race. being prosecuted for dehydration just seems overreaching IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted April 17, 2021 Share well then SAIDS will have a field day in the medical tent at the Cape Epic or any other long stage race. being prosecuted for dehydration just seems overreaching IMODoesn’t dehydration push up your blood hematocrit level (red blood cell count) which could indicate blood doping or epo usage......? I know the above is a bit simplified, I’m sure the doping authorities know the difference ???????? Edited April 17, 2021 by SwissVan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted April 19, 2021 Share “lose a strava kom”Where I live there are no danger of that happeningTrue. Saffa pro's and dopers are quite slow, so us has-beens and never-was crowd can pick em up quite easily. I suppose I should feel pretty good that he could only take 1 second off of me. Andrew Steer and BigDL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted April 19, 2021 Share LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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