Tygerberg MTB club newsletter - unacceptable

[AndreJvVZA]

21 hours ago, Newbie321 said:

Only been a member for two years but those emails have always come across as unprofessional and a whine session. If it's not to dry it's to wet etc.

The subcontractors this year have done a great job with keeping more trails ride-able. Perhaps it's time to give one of them the reigns for some fresh blood.

I second that!

[Mtbiker404]

I find the newsletter to be slightly entertaining. As for trashing the corners, I blame ebikes. Ebikes are heavy and goes very fast and has large knobbied tyres. This lends to ripping trails apart much more than normal mtbs. I have even seen ebikes rip up trails on climbs. If you want to spend less time on trail maintenance, ban ebikes!

[DieselnDust]

9 minutes ago, Mtbiker404 said:

I find the newsletter to be slightly entertaining. As for trashing the corners, I blame ebikes. Ebikes are heavy and goes very fast and has large knobbied tyres. This lends to ripping trails apart much more than normal mtbs. I have even seen ebikes rip up trails on climbs. If you want to spend less time on trail maintenance, ban ebikes!

You mean motobikes 

[Bub Marley]

2 hours ago, Robbie Stewart said:

No. There is only the main "drag your brakes and earn a PK line" - same as every other trail on the network.

I don't care for the pretend threats of violence.

I TAKE MASSIVE EXCEPTION TO BEING TOLD WHAT TO DO WITH MY BIKE. 

Mountain biking inherently involves people of different skills riding on a trail in variable ways. I rode the Hammer again a couple times on Saturday, and I struggle to see how anyone would purposely be dragging their brakes on those massive berms. That is detrimental to riding the line as it's intended so that you properly clear the jumps. The berms need to be ridden leaned over and at speed.

If you come in too hot, then the brakes are there to prevent injury. If I'm now expected to ride slowly so as to not damage the trail, then I wonder what the point of the trail is? Is riding it to its purpose allowed, or not? If it is, then there will always be the side effect of someone grabbing a fistful of brakes every now and then.

I think that by now most every rider on the trails of Tygerberg knows not to be dwis and ride like that on purpose, and I get that it takes work and effort to fix the damage when its done, but that's the nature of the sport. If you don't like doing the work, then maybe go find another more calming job.

I ride trails all over, and there are some other trails that are in much worse condition, yet I have never been threatened with violence by the trail builders. Case in point Jonkershoek after the Enduro. I reckon Bennet Nel is going to be busy fixing most of what he did leading up to the race for quite some time. I've yet to hear him moan about it.

I agree with this 100%.

 

Ive never come across anyone purposefully trashing the trails but that’s just me. If you’re experienced, you’re obviously gonna go quickly and if you overcooked it, what are you supposed to do? Surely that’s all part of the sport. Then they also complain a lot when newbies overuse the brakes around corners. Seriously, if you’re just starting out, its pretty normal to do this until you get the hang of it. I’m trying to understand what exactly the correct way of riding now is.

 

Regardless, if you build specific trails with all these berms, drop offs and switchbacks, then unfortunately it’s gonna take damage. Perhaps this is is becoming too costly to maintain, but then they should increase the membership fee. I do think for the number of trails we get to ride, its amazing value for money. But if its not sustainable then perhaps increase it. 

[Mtbiker404]

22 minutes ago, DieselnDust said:

You mean motobikes 

I mean all vehicles on mtb trails that put down power onto to it that is not natural poep-krag.

[Rock Guy]

48 minutes ago, Mtbiker404 said:

I find the newsletter to be slightly entertaining. As for trashing the corners, I blame ebikes. Ebikes are heavy and goes very fast and has large knobbied tyres. This lends to ripping trails apart much more than normal mtbs. I have even seen ebikes rip up trails on climbs. If you want to spend less time on trail maintenance, ban ebikes!

[ChristiaanSt]

58 minutes ago, Mtbiker404 said:

I find the newsletter to be slightly entertaining. As for trashing the corners, I blame ebikes. Ebikes are heavy and goes very fast and has large knobbied tyres. This lends to ripping trails apart much more than normal mtbs. I have even seen ebikes rip up trails on climbs. If you want to spend less time on trail maintenance, ban ebikes!

Not to hijack the topic here - So by my calculations you are saying that me(110kg) on a amish bike with big tyres does less damage to the trail than my buddy(60kg) on his ebike?

[Milosh]

1 hour ago, Mtbiker404 said:

I find the newsletter to be slightly entertaining. As for trashing the corners, I blame ebikes. Ebikes are heavy and goes very fast and has large knobbied tyres. This lends to ripping trails apart much more than normal mtbs. I have even seen ebikes rip up trails on climbs. If you want to spend less time on trail maintenance, ban ebikes!

Are you trying to merge with the " Do eBikes belong on the mountain?"  thread   ?

[ChristiaanSt]

3 minutes ago, Milosh said:

Are you trying to merge with the " Do eBikes belong on the mountain?"  thread   ?

These days as soon as someone gets upset they blame ebikes. All forum posts will eventually end up in the "Do eBikes belong on the mountain" thread.

[Danger Dassie]

Just phone hotel reception and/or your team management...... 🤭😋

[MORNE]

3 hours ago, Skubarra said:

Yes Seriously? A crude word in a newsletter and suddenly we start thread a thread on the hub and demand public apologies? 🤦‍♂️

Either we are now super snowflaky or there is a deeper resentment against the club and the offending word was just the excuse to let it rip.

I am a paid up member. But as already mentioned, yes...there is an opinion about the club out there, and stuff like this makes it difficult to defend them. Excuse?...probably not, motivation?....probably yes. 

They themselves have apologised and agreed that there is better way to communicate issues and that official comms need proofreading before they go out. The issue is resolved form that standpoint, nobody died. 

3 hours ago, Wannabe said:

What I take out of this thread is that there is personal beef with Patrick, that is dragged into the open instead of being resolved in private, or bygones let to me bygones.

Typical Cancell / Woke behavior. 😉

Nope...and nope. He seems like a decent enough guy. And sure, this was a slip up. Nothing was dragged into the open...those comms were written and sent into the universe knowingly - by them and them alone.  This is nothing personal against him....it's probably actually the persons fault that needed to check those comms before they went out. But thats irrelevant, they are club reps and need to act according to their own written constitution.  

The club is not some book or old boys club (anymore). They represent the interests of 1000's of paying members of all ages and day clients - and should act accordingly. There are ways to communicate that wont exacerbate above mentioned perceptions and opinions of them too. And they have agreed. 

 

 

 

['Dale]

Julle girls moet ophou moan. If you ride your bikes often and hard enough, there should be little or no energy for complaining about the chirpy newsletter of a trail builder who probably means well

TMBMC is an imperfect organisation who has done well to build a network of trails that is very cool.

 Be lekka. 

[Shebeen]

15 hours ago, MORNE said:

Not the same thing and you know it. 🙃

of course it's not the same thing. Leon was talking literally there.

 

Maybe Mr POESK can explain further

 

[W Smith]

1 hour ago, Mtbiker404 said:

I find the newsletter to be slightly entertaining. As for trashing the corners, I blame ebikes. Ebikes are heavy and goes very fast and has large knobbied tyres. This lends to ripping trails apart much more than normal mtbs. I have even seen ebikes rip up trails on climbs. If you want to spend less time on trail maintenance, ban ebikes!

Here we go ...

[Bub Marley]

8 minutes ago, 'Dale said:

Julle girls moet ophou moan. If you ride your bikes often and hard enough, there should be little or no energy for complaining about the chirpy newsletter of a trail builder who probably means well

TMBMC is an imperfect organisation who has done well to build a network of trails that is very cool.

 Be lekka. 

I agree be lekka but things like this are good also. I’m sure they will learn and move on from it. We’re spoilt for choice so I’m thankful to have this on my doorstep.

[Thermophage]

17 minutes ago, 'Dale said:

Julle girls moet ophou moan. If you ride your bikes often and hard enough, there should be little or no energy for complaining about the chirpy newsletter of a trail builder who probably means well

TMBMC is an imperfect organisation who has done well to build a network of trails that is very cool.

 Be lekka. 

They have done great things, but it does not in any way absolve them from criticism.