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https://mybroadband.co.za/news/motoring/300364-honda-unveils-electric-dirt-bike.html

 

I think it's been asked before, but where do you draw the line between it being a mountain bike and it being a motorcycle? Power? Speed? Tyre size?

 

In most countries 250w and 25kph max speed for an ebike.

 

Over here if you mod your ebike or it comes out of the box above that then you have to wear a full motorbike helmet and ride it on the streets (not allowed on the bike paths).

 

Most of the performance/carbon/expensive ebikes I see are modded to 45kph and 500w and people still use them on bike paths with bicycle helmets. People are quite reasonable over here though so there are no bike lane issues (it isn't like the STRAVAAAAAAAAA Braamfontein Spuit :-)

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If there wasn't a E-bike on the mountain this passed week we would never have had Epic footage live on route.

 

E-bikes belong wherever they go. I think they amazing and have helped many people who would never ride or want to ride get on a bike.

it was awesome to see the e bikes following and providing that view

 

super cool touch

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it was awesome to see the e bikes following and providing that view

 

super cool touch

Epic coverage indeed

I challenge anyone to suggest an event better live coverage.

 

Yes sure they could include some late afternoon coverage for the real life drama, buts as is it’s still pretty damn good

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Saw a lady on one today into the headwind, was rather jealous! The weight even keeps you on the ground [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

 

 

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"gets double the descending" = trail take double the traffic / time unit

 

Good example of why E-Bike are welcome, but need to contribute proportionally to funds/costs that do are used for trail maintenance.

 

this is getting a bit petty don't you think...  

 

who knows, the unfit newbie on his ebike that you despise might just end up being the same guy who goes out of his way to build/maintain trails every second weekend... compare that to a serious dude training for epic who would typically be way too obsessed with chasing strava segments and hitting weekly TSS targets to ever touch a rake or a shovel to fix a berm...

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A mamil might feel a bit threatened if a silver haired tannie came breezing past him on chappies. Especially if she was on a bright red, 7 speed 26er wearing a lilac tracksuit and a purple rinse putting out 500 watts plus the 30 her plimsols are laying down and singing out a cheery good morning as she sailed by.

 

 

This. There are a lot of them. But don't forget the young whipper snappers who despise older people on shiny expensive bikes, with smiles on their faces...

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I am not a fan and I feel like they should not be allowed BUT each to their own and as long as you are out on your bike we are mates. I like the Strava point, not sure that is fair but hey, last time I checked life was not fair.

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Time for a RE-think ....  :eek:   WOW !!  :eek:

 

At the bottom of Burry Stander I stopped and had some water.  Saw a lady on a bike coming along the contour line from the pump track .... she was MOVING !!  Then recognized it as an ebike ....

 

 

She was going to do a U-turn onto the single track that flows from Burry Stander.  I greeted, and waved her through.  She comment that she had to push it as her husband was catching up ....  THIS is when I realised this lady must be about retirement age !  :w00t:   And she was doing a DECENT speed, and was working hard enough that her breathing was showing it !!!

 

 

About 10 seconds later her husband came past, also on an ebike.  He was motoring !!

 

 

Hey, it is downhill, and technical .... so I let RIP !!  :thumbup:   IT was only a few hard pedals before I had my fingers lightly on the brakes .... I was moving along as fast as I dared to !  :eek:   And those infernal ebikes were just dissapearing into the distance !!!  Now the sad reality is that I was going as fast as I felt safe to go, the physical limitations would have been another 20 to 25km/h faster, but the trail is too rutted and corrugated to go full blast ... yet these people appearing to be of retirement age simply dissapeared into the distance ......

 

 

My ego wants to lament about the advantages of motorised two wheeled monstrosities on the trails ....

 

Yet my common sense have to admit there are some people having tons of FUN on ebikes, WHILE pushing the limits of the trails, AND (heaven forbid) getting a decent workout.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dammit .... not being able to afford these bikes I so wanted to hate it ..... 

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Time for a RE-think .... :eek: WOW !! :eek:

 

At the bottom of Burry Stander I stopped and had some water. Saw a lady on a bike coming along the contour line from the pump track .... she was MOVING !! Then recognized it as an ebike ....

 

 

She was going to do a U-turn onto the single track that flows from Burry Stander. I greeted, and waved her through. She comment that she had to push it as her husband was catching up .... THIS is when I realised this lady must be about retirement age ! :w00t: And she was doing a DECENT speed, and was working hard enough that her breathing was showing it !!!

 

 

About 10 seconds later her husband came past, also on an ebike. He was motoring !!

 

 

Hey, it is downhill, and technical .... so I let RIP !! :thumbup: IT was only a few hard pedals before I had my fingers lightly on the brakes .... I was moving along as fast as I dared to ! :eek: And those infernal ebikes were just dissapearing into the distance !!! Now the sad reality is that I was going as fast as I felt safe to go, the physical limitations would have been another 20 to 25km/h faster, but the trail is too rutted and corrugated to go full blast ... yet these people appearing to be of retirement age simply dissapeared into the distance ......

 

 

My ego wants to lament about the advantages of motorised two wheeled monstrosities on the trails ....

 

Yet my common sense have to admit there are some people having tons of FUN on ebikes, WHILE pushing the limits of the trails, AND (heaven forbid) getting a decent workout.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dammit .... not being able to afford these bikes I so wanted to hate it .....

Any reason you saw that they wouldn’t have had as much fun on a bicycle? Simply an increase in speed on the motorbike or was there other elements?

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this is getting a bit petty don't you think...

 

who knows, the unfit newbie on his ebike that you despise might just end up being the same guy who goes out of his way to build/maintain trails every second weekend... compare that to a serious dude training for epic who would typically be way too obsessed with chasing strava segments and hitting weekly TSS targets to ever touch a rake or a shovel to fix a berm...

I'm using an argument with a representative group on both sides of the e bike fence. I.e. there would be people that are willing to swing a spade in equal numbers on both sides of it. (Are there actually a trail that reduce membership fees if you swing a spade from time to time?)

 

It's not petty. I guess rather to early for the discussion....

 

Let's proceed with it in a couple of years when 30-40% of members of your favourite (membership based) trail use ebikes and annual fees are increased to cover maintenance.

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Anyone riding a normal pedal bike while their partner (GF, BF, Wife or hubby) rides an Ebike?

 

Just wondering how this combo works especially when one partner is not as strong as the other, does it level the playing field....?

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