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My racetec results shows as 6 hours 19 minutes when I rode a 4h45 on strava :cursing:

 

I shifted down from 2F to 4J.

Seems like I was recorded with 2F.

 

Still beat 4 others in the group...

 

Now for the fun part to query this with Racetec

I'm wondering if the provisional results are generated using chip time crossing the finish line with a start time lookup based on seeding.

That would explain issues like yours plus explain the 2:30s from 5e etc

- in your case adding time

- the "faster" riders are potentially jumping the start (or starting somewhere else on the route)

 

Finalised results then take into account the on course mat readings and the manual start group data (your number being captured when you enter the "wrong" group)

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I'm wondering if the provisional results are generated using chip time crossing the finish line with a start time lookup based on seeding.

That would explain issues like yours plus explain the 2:30s from 5e etc

- in your case adding time

- the "faster" riders are potentially jumping the start (or starting somewhere else on the route)

 

Finalised results then take into account the on course mat readings and the manual start group data (your number being captured when you enter the "wrong" group)

 

There are also multiple mats used at each point. So if one does not catch you the others will. This is how people are not on now, but will be next week. Its hard recording that many people that quickly across the line.

 

On a side note, RFID has been trialed and has a worse capture percentage in large groups than the mats. Works fine for small events or MTB when its 2/3 people across the line at once, but when a bunch of 200 cross quickly RFID falls on its face and is hard to set up a fail safe.

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There are also multiple mats used at each point. So if one does not catch you the others will. This is how people are not on now, but will be next week. Its hard recording that many people that quickly across the line.

 

On a side note, RFID has been trialed and has a worse capture percentage in large groups than the mats. Works fine for small events or MTB when its 2/3 people across the line at once, but when a bunch of 200 cross quickly RFID falls on its face and is hard to set up a fail safe.

 

Just technical note.. Mats are rfid, just low frequency, the others is high frequency/ultra high frequency and can be picked up to 100m away causing massive collisions (receivers can only read one tag at time) so each tag have to fight for position and resend until receiver acks the transmission (well sortoff),  basicly because they can transmit so far they clash with each other,

 

LF(mats) is about 20-40cm so hardley any interference from other tags

 

(We been trying to replace timing system so been doing some testing over last 3 years)

Edited by Karman de Lange
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I'm wondering if the provisional results are generated using chip time crossing the finish line with a start time lookup based on seeding.

 

Yip, I had the same issue, but it is now fixed and they have adjusted it to my actual start time rather than my seeded group time.

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Mature male with a gimp right hand, radio collar and zero F’s given - cruises out the undergrowth almost into my front wheel on Smit’s- didn’t even flinch and headed down the Centre of the road like a boss!ut 

Nope but there was a large male who strode directly across Victoria Road with no issue into all the pre-Suikerbossie groups, Hout Bay....almost caused a massive pile-up!

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I had a bizarre CTCT. Post my Attakwas-fall recovery I lined up in @ with the bare-minimum of training. Given my fitness levels the question of getting dropped was when not if. "When" turned to be the very first climb up Edinburgh...

 

But somehow made it back to @ bunch with a small group of stragglers at Simonstown but in the chase burned most of the matches that were in short supply to begin with. Proceeded to get dropped again on Smits. And again dug deep, spent the last few matches to catch the group again before Scarborough.

 

Around Misty Cliffs I knew I was deep in the poo, I had nothing left and sure thing on the little rise after Misty Cliffs @ dropped me one last time. The next 10km past Kommetjie & Ocean View was surreal. Me completely on my own with no other cyclist in sight and crowds lining the streets shouting encouragement looking very sorry for me. 

 

& finally caught me at Noordhoek, I proceeded to ride with them for about 300m and then they dropped me on the first 50m of Chappies. At least I was not completely on my own anymore. Stragglers from the sign groups passed me with regular intervals up & down Chappies and up Suikerbossie. (yes, I was literally dropped on every climb on Sunday)

 

Finally on the crest of Suikerbossie I was caught by 1A and somehow I found some legs not to get dropped for the 5th time on the day. Hanged on for dear life and somehow made a sub-3 with a few seconds to spare.

 

Feels like cheating seeing a sub-3 behind my name when for most of the race I felt like an unfit loser, but just goes to show that on the day with the right seeding & good weather you can f^&* up plenty and somehow still manage to reach your goal...

Edited by Skubarra
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Has it been discussed... There was a guy on the right hand side of the road heading from Cape Point to the Redhill/Misty cliffs turn whose bike was broken in half!

 

Yoh.... 

 

Man, that's a bad day out for someone.

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It is indeed sad but not entirely unexpected.

 

200-odd heart attack related deaths in SA everyday. 60M people. Across 300,000 people that's one person. Take the physical stress of an event like CTCT into account and 1 in 30,000 perhaps isn't so unrepresentative?

 

 

I note with sadness someone passed away just after he finished (presumably a heart attachk). Seems at least one every year. Very sad.

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Great race report ... Love the last line "You can f up plenty and still manage to reach your goal"  which reminded me of a James song "Getting away with it all messed up". 

 

 

I had a bizarre CTCT. Post my Attakwas-fall recovery I lined up in @ with the bare-minimum of training. Given my fitness levels the question of getting dropped was when not if. "When" turned to be the very first climb up Edinburgh...

 

But somehow made it back to @ bunch with a small group of stragglers at Simonstown but in the chase burned most of the matches that were in short supply to begin with. Proceeded to get dropped again on Smits. And again dug deep, spent the last few matches to catch the group again before Scarborough.

 

Around Misty Cliffs I knew I was deep in the poo, I had nothing left and sure thing on the little rise after Misty Cliffs @ dropped me one last time. The next 10km past Kommetjie & Ocean View was surreal. Me completely on my own with no other cyclist in sight and crowds lining the streets shouting encouragement looking very sorry for me. 

 

& finally caught me at Noordhoek, I proceeded to ride with them for about 300m and then they dropped me on the first 50m of Chappies. At least I was not completely on my own anymore. Stragglers from the sign groups passed me with regular intervals up & down Chappies and up Suikerbossie. (yes, I was literally dropped on every climb on Sunday)

 

Finally on the crest of Suikerbossie I was caught by 1A and somehow I found some legs not to get dropped for the 5th time on the day. Hanged on for dear life and somehow made a sub-3 with a few seconds to spare.

 

Feels like cheating seeing a sub-3 behind my name when for most of the race I felt like an unfit loser, but just goes to show that on the day with the right seeding & good weather you can f^&* up plenty and somehow still manage to reach your goal...

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You are Talking about this ONE?

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Yip that's the one. I could see instantly that it was huge. We ride a 56 and I could tell it was a fair amount of teeth bigger. What size is your small blade? Do you struggle to change gears? We used to struggle a lot when we had a 42. The jump up was too big for the derailleur to handle in race conditions. Now have a 44 and it is much better.

Where did you get such a big blade? We could have done with maybe 2 more teeth on the big blade on Sunday.

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Just a few things to add - my last of 2 was 15 or so years ago when MTB's still had vee brakes but my daughter in CT had the mad idea in January to do the "Argus", first time.  Some quite intense training off a very low base; longest ride 3 hours or so, last week I scrounged a cardboard box, packed as a trial for a possible Morzine jaunt, not that easy, the thing is huge (1,5m long) but still a bugger to jam a Giant Trance into :eek: . Haul from long term in Durbs was saved by a golf cart.

 

All good in CT, bike arrived in perfect order, jammed into a Ford Figo, pumped slick tyres to serious pressure (for an MTB'er), replaced one tube.  Expo was very busy but very efficient :thumbup: , some of the stadium surrounds are sleazy :thumbdown: .  Bought train tickets for Newlands and I would drop to her group, 5K, starting around 9. Bought enough food to do 3 unsupported rides :w00t: . Decided to catch train just after 7 at Claremont, pleased to see 2 other cyclists there but no train. A microcosm of SA though, petrol sniffer on the platform, a dicey looking dude with a hammer wheeled a new looking Silverback with a CTCT profile on the cross bar past us and down the track. All 4 of us (all demographics represented) decided it was a stolen bike but did nothing, agreeing no one would act, but did feel bad about our sheep like inaction :ph34r:.  The casual security and cheerfully rotund but  Prasa ladies knew nothing about extra trains or, when train time came and went, what time anything was going to happen :huh: .  Train came around 30 minutes late, boarded and quick trip to CT, uneventful, tickets were checked by the 3 ladies.  Train moderately full, reasonable, pretty much first world commuter standard inside.  What could be; if only :devil: ?

 

Getting to start was easy and super efficient once there.  Took it easy, little bit of wind but ok in a small group, one crash just behind us, drizzle near Millers Pt but still toured, enjoying it. Nice run through halfway but rain at Scarborough not so nice and intermittent after that but, thank goodness, no real cold wind and rain together otherwise there may have been people in trouble. I had a light jacket and bin bag, just in case but not used.  Most people in good spirits, ebikes cruised through but seems a little pointless to me. If you are going to ride a powered cycle, why do it when the roads are cluttered with pushbikes? Put lights on that thing and give it horns.

 

Some tricky little gusts after Suikerbossie but last of the rain and we burnt what matches the wind didn't blow out into the finish which was well organised and efficient. Back in time for shower, snooze, supper with rest of family, a few beers and early bed.  All in all, a really good day :clap:. Thanks to everyone who organised marshaled etc etc.  Appreciated.

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