Dopers suck

[Andymann]

Well worth a listen if you have around an hour and a half to spare

 

https://player.fm/series/the-real-science-of-sport-podcast

 

How to cheat at sport and get away with it

[geomark]

This story is breaking after a long period of behind closed doors legal activity since the original 2015 allegations, going to be embarrassing for Nike as well as Farah

 

Alberto Salazar: Mo Farah's former coach banned for four years for doping violations

https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/49882757

 

https://twitter.com/bbcmarkdaly/status/1178820933873745921?s=11

[eddy]

I see the British Cycling doctor who received a stash of Testosterone patches at the Team Sky head office, but claimed it was delivered erroneously, is being tried before some medical tribunal in the UK.

 

He has now admitted that he DID order the patches, but they were not for any cyclist, but for one of the support staff.

 

Whilst the Mail is not the world's ultimate source of truth, it is not a bad recorder, and is here staying away from idle speculation but is reporting on the facts presented to the hearing by his lawyer and The Times is running an identical story behind their pay-wall.

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-7625725/British-Cycling-doctor-Richard-Freeman-admit-telling-lot-lies.html
 

Edited October 29, 2019 by eddy

[jdwet1980]

https://m.sport24.co.za/Tennis/star-sa-wheelchair-tennis-champion-sithole-banned-20200122

[geomark]

So it would appear that some dopers really do suck, and apparently swallow   .... still a better story than Daryl Impey 

 

Canoe star Laurence Vincent Lapointe found not guilty of taking banned substance

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/summer/canoe-kayak/laurence-vincent-lapointe-doping-verdict-1.5441395

[geomark]

"In a news release, the ICF said it has "accepted Ms. Vincent Lapointe's evidence which supports that she was the victim of third-party contamination."

Vincent Lapointe told Radio-Canada recently that the trace amounts could have come from bodily fluids exchanged with her former boyfriend as Ligandrol can be transferred through saliva, sweat and semen."

 

So;

1) how long until someone bust in the men's peleton suddenly comes out of the closet as gay?

2) does this get around the no needles rule?

Edited January 28, 2020 by geomark

[Vetplant]

Fascinating.

 

Obviously in any overturning of an adverse finding the evidence must be very substantial to convince a panel to overturn the ruling. Well done to the legal team.

 

Very odd, none-the-less.

[geomark]

Fascinating.

 

Obviously in any overturning of an adverse finding the evidence must be very substantial to convince a panel to overturn the ruling. Well done to the legal team.

 

Very odd, none-the-less.

I have no doubt some awkward conversations were had.

[Quagga]

"In a news release, the ICF said it has "accepted Ms. Vincent Lapointe's evidence which supports that she was the victim of third-party contamination."

Vincent Lapointe told Radio-Canada recently that the trace amounts could have come from bodily fluids exchanged with her former boyfriend as Ligandrol can be transferred through saliva, sweat and semen."

 

So;

1) how long until someone bust in the men's peleton suddenly comes out of the closet as gay?

2) does this get around the no needles rule?

Not sure what you mean with that ?

[Andrew Steer]

She may well be innocent... but this just opens up another loophole for dopers to slide on through

 

Counter contamination, kissing, 'other fluid swaps', inhaler explosions, racing pigeon pie... the opportunities for lawyers are endless 

[Long Wheel Base]

That must be a hard one to swallow for her. 

[Vetplant]

[sNIP]... still a better story than Daryl Impey 

[sNIP)

I am an unapologetic Impey fan, but I couldn't remember the exact circumstances around his alleged doping incident, so had to go look again.

 

He raced the SA TT in FEB 2014. Cycling SA informed him only in JUNE that he had an adverse finding.

 

What utter Bull%$#% from CSA?!

4 months!

He was the first south african to wear the Yellow Jersey at the TDF the year before and due to this finding he was forced to miss both the TDF and Vuelta that year. 

 

It makes it exponentially more difficult for a sports professional to retrace their steps the longer time passes from the event. So the fact that they could retrace the steps to that Durban pharmacy and they were able to find the necessary hard evidence in forms of till register receipts tells me the story checks out, no matter how far fetched it sounds.

 

People should probably be careful of insinuating an element of fraud in this case, as a registered medical professional is involved and there is only negative consequences for him with no benefit if he was to forge those receipts just to clear a sports person.

 

Calling someone who has been found guilty of doping a "doper" is probably fair game. But can we please move on from any professionals that have been cleared of any wrongdoing through the proper anti-doping structures. (Yes I know Lance never tested positive but different era etc.)

 

PS:

• " contaminated with Probenecid, which can be used as a masking agent and is not a performance-enhancing drug." 
• " It is primarily used in treating gout and hyperuricemia." 
• It is not like he used EPO or blood doped.

 

OK, I'm done

[Patchelicious]

Dopers suck, unless they are our own or cycle with "flair", then they are cool and we must move on.

[NickGM]

Dopers suck, unless they are our own or cycle with "flair", then they are cool and we must move on.

Pantani Rules! I Hate Lance!

[Pure Savage]

I never thought the title of this thread would be so accurate, doper did suck. AND THEY CONFESSED FOR ONCE to sucking, not the doping.

[Pure Savage]

Maybe Fand should update the title, not all dopers suck, technically. 

 

This lawyer is going to get so much work now from the dutch cyclo cross ladies.