Squier Posted October 17, 2018 Share Worse, confidence is an amazing thing. Winning probably would have had a massive impact on training and future performance if clean and winning.Still think these tools should be charged with fraud - no difference between this and stealing from your business. Agreed, the definition of sport changes when it becomes someones livelihood. There's obviously a couple of different definitions, but fundamentally fraud is defined as "wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain". That's pretty much the definition of doping too. peetwindhoek and Gen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splat Posted October 17, 2018 Share This is making international news: https://cyclingtips.com/2018/10/trek-director-found-unconscious-after-riding-incident-tennis-star-slams-cycling-for-doping-problem-daily-news-digest/ scroll down to: South Africa cracking down on doping in MTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtr1 Posted October 17, 2018 Share I have always said, only way to stop doping is to allow retroactive testing of samples, and to make it a criminal offence to be caught. That way you can dodge a test today, but not in the future once a test is developed or improved, and a criminal record effects you for the rest of your life. They should even get jail time for extreme cases. And then any money recovered must go towards anti-doping efforts. Eldron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted October 17, 2018 Share According to the article above the ban is back dated to 16th June 2015. Does that mean he can race again next year June? DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryvdM Posted October 17, 2018 Share According to the article above the ban is back dated to 16th June 2015. Does that mean he can race again next year June? No www.drugfreesport.org.za/.../SAIDS-v-Max-Knox.pdf9. SANCTION <snip> The athlete is sanctioned to a period of ineligibility of 4 years, which is to commence from the date of the hearing being the 05th April 2018 to 04th April 2022 and the results between 16th June 2015 to 05th April 2018, are to be declared null and void and disqualified. The athlete is required to return all medals and prizes won during this period. Edited October 17, 2018 by GaryvdM Danger Dassie, Sydd, intern and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanC Posted October 17, 2018 Share I see Max Knox is also on the podium each year at the Nedbank Desert Dash. DieselnDust and Pure Savage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryvdM Posted October 17, 2018 Share Lots of interesting details in the hearing report. Here is one that is inconsequential, but funny: 6.6.17.The athlete was questioned as to acquaintances he may have made through the cycling field, being former team mates that may have faced anti-doping rule violations. From the list of people the athlete my be acquainted with, four people have tested positive for either testosterone or EPO. 6.6.18.The athlete denied knowing a one Mr Brandon Stewart who had been in violation of an anti-doping rule violation(sic), however it was shown and confirmed by SAIDS that the athlete had in fact listed this person as a next of kin in a medical form provided to Mediclinic when the athlete was admitted in hospital. :lol: Edited October 17, 2018 by GaryvdM peetwindhoek, Sydd, Mntboy and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocknRolla Posted October 17, 2018 Share Lots of interesting details in the hearing report. Here is one that is inconsequential, but funny: :lol: No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar - Abraham Lincoln intern, nathrix, Wayne pudding Mol and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 17, 2018 Share I have emailed Racetec to remove Max Knox's 3:48 at the Cycle Tour in 2013. Hit him where it hurts. GaryvdM, Opc_danny, geomark and 21 others 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryvdM Posted October 17, 2018 Share . Edited October 17, 2018 by GaryvdM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted October 17, 2018 Share I have emailed Racetec to remove Max Knox's 3:48 at the Cycle Tour in 2013. Hit him where it hurts.does it not start 2015?? " In terms of the ruling, he will be stripped of all his titles from June 16, 2015" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 17, 2018 Share does it not start 2015?? " In terms of the ruling, he will be stripped of all his titles from June 16, 2015"Titles, not results! Danger Dassie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryvdM Posted October 17, 2018 Share I have emailed Racetec to remove Max Knox's 3:48 at the Cycle Tour in 2013. Hit him where it hurts. does it not start 2015?? " In terms of the ruling, he will be stripped of all his titles from June 16, 2015" He was making a joke - 3:48 for Argust is a *** time for a rider of his level. Edited October 17, 2018 by GaryvdM Pure Savage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted October 17, 2018 Share He was making a joke - 3:48 for Argust is a *** time for a rider doper of his level.fixed it for you Nibali, Pure Savage, MTB Cruiser and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted October 17, 2018 Share I have emailed Racetec to remove Max Knox's 3:48 at the Cycle Tour in 2013. Hit him where it hurts. While you are busy working your way into heaven don't you want to check for the rest of the dopes too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted October 17, 2018 Share does it not start 2015?? " In terms of the ruling, he will be stripped of all his titles from June 16, 2015" I guess this means we can upgrade him from the tilte of "Suspected doper" to "Former Doper" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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