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2 hours ago, Shebeen said:

I missed the whole thing, but I think it's actually getting better.

Yes it is. The majority is becoming more inclusive and equal. This needs to be acknowledged. 

But there will always be hate on both sides at the fringes, some misogynists and racists masquerading as rationalists, and the retribution seeking woke leftists masquerading as progressives. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, J Wakefield said:

Send people who know what they doing in that level of environment and have a proven track record with the required qualifications for it. 

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I am separated far far away enough from this not to have any vested interests apart from seeing our athletes achieve their best.

so who is the support staff actually? With a quick google i found this, totally understand that there could be a lot more behind these people and this is hardly exhaustive. 

Elton Davids - SG of cycling sa (i guess he had a big hand in selecting the support staff, including himself) I guess CSA salaried

Carl Pasio - Ash's husband, former pro cyclist and the support behind everything she does to be easily the best female cyclist we've ever had.

Ian Goetham - various CSA committees, probably volunteer

Gary Blem - one of the best world tour mechanics on the planet - he does/did Froome's bike

Brigitte Mileson - dunno uk based physio 

JP Jacobs - mechanic for spez, cannondale etc pro mtb teams

Tyrone Johns - kzn based bmx rider and coach, probably volunteer

Moosa claasen - apart from the team announcements, can only find this on him covering saddles

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Shebeen said:

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I am separated far far away enough from this not to have any vested interests apart from seeing our athletes achieve their best.

so who is the support staff actually? With a quick google i found this, totally understand that there could be a lot more behind these people and this is hardly exhaustive. 

Elton Davids - SG of cycling sa (i guess he had a big hand in selecting the support staff, including himself) I guess CSA salaried

Carl Pasio - Ash's husband, former pro cyclist and the support behind everything she does to be easily the best female cyclist we've ever had.

Ian Goetham - various CSA committees, probably volunteer

Gary Blem - one of the best world tour mechanics on the planet - he does/did Froome's bike

Brigitte Mileson - dunno uk based physio 

JP Jacobs - mechanic for spez, cannondale etc pro mtb teams

Tyrone Johns - kzn based bmx rider and coach, probably volunteer

Moosa claasen - apart from the team announcements, can only find this on him covering saddles

 

 

Well....

Posted (edited)
50 minutes ago, Shebeen said:

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I am separated far far away enough from this not to have any vested interests apart from seeing our athletes achieve their best.

so who is the support staff actually? With a quick google i found this, totally understand that there could be a lot more behind these people and this is hardly exhaustive. 

Elton Davids - SG of cycling sa (i guess he had a big hand in selecting the support staff, including himself) I guess CSA salaried

Carl Pasio - Ash's husband, former pro cyclist and the support behind everything she does to be easily the best female cyclist we've ever had.

Ian Goetham - various CSA committees, probably volunteer

Gary Blem - one of the best world tour mechanics on the planet - he does/did Froome's bike

Brigitte Mileson - dunno uk based physio 

JP Jacobs - mechanic for spez, cannondale etc pro mtb teams

Tyrone Johns - kzn based bmx rider and coach, probably volunteer

Moosa claasen - apart from the team announcements, can only find this on him covering saddles

 

 

Moosa (Mellie) is known to me. He's the head wrench at Bridge Cycles. He's been on various SA Cycling teams as mechanic at the request of athletes I'm told by people other than the man himself. Has built wheels foe me in the past and they haven't fallen apart. IME a very good mechanic.

Elton has been around a long time, from Secretary at Elfin Cycling Club, ACSIS Cycling (From which Velokhaya sprang IIRC. also the formative years of what is now BikeHub(Matt can correct me)) past PPA Exco vicechair, Cycletour trust board member,  Holds a qualification in Sports  Admin from UWC IIRC, super passionate bloke and landed current role at CSA a few months back. Probably the newest onto the scene here.

JP, Head wrench at CFR, Lefty Wizzard

Gary is known as Pro tour wrench.

So with the innuendo being thrown around I'm struggling to see where the lack of competency lies or what the expectation of competency is. 

Without specifics these are just revolving conversations. The people appear to be plug and play. Whoever gets the job also carries the labels of the people they replace.

So where specifically are the issues?

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36 minutes ago, DieselnDust said:

Moosa (Mellie) is known to me. He's the head wrench at Bridge Cycles. He's been on various SA Cycling teams as mechanic at the request of athletes I'm told by people other than the man himself. Has built wheels foe me in the past and they haven't fallen apart. IME a very good mechanic.

Elton has been around a long time, from Secretary at Elfin Cycling Club, ACSIS Cycling (From which Velokhaya sprang IIRC. also the formative years of what is now BikeHub(Matt can correct me)) past PPA Exco vicechair, Cycletour trust board member,  Holds a qualification in Sports  Admin from UWC IIRC, super passionate bloke and landed current role at CSA a few months back. Probably the newest onto the scene here.

JP, Head wrench at CFR, Lefty Wizzard

Gary is known as Pro tour wrench.

So with the innuendo being thrown around I'm struggling to see where the lack of competency lies or what the expectation of competency is. 

Without specifics these are just revolving conversations. The people appear to be plug and play. Whoever gets the job also carries the labels of the people they replace.

So where specifically are the issues?

Brigitte has helped and managed Jean since he started his journey for Olympic qualification nearly 5 years ago. She is well qualified and deserved to be selected and has the experience to manage the team.

 

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If I must rate the performances (out of 10) of the SA cyclists so far at the games my not very refined ratings would be as follows:

Ashleigh- 7,5

Alan- 6

Stefan-6

Candice- 5

Nic- 3

Carla- 2

Ryan-  1

Alex- 1

 

For reference , I would give Tatjana a 10+ and Bianca a 9. 

 

Whether better support staff/clothing/requipment would have made a difference to the performances is unknown but I doubt very much .  

 

Posted
40 minutes ago, JA-Q001 said:

TBH, Alan deserves a 7,5 at least too, if not an 8.

Bigger competition that AMP and if it wasn't for a poor start, he could have been very close to that podium.

 

The surprise package for me was Stefan de Bod who beat a few very big names in the ITT and also at least finished the Road race while many bigger starts did not even manage to do that.  Not bad at all for a rider who was drafted in as a replacement. 

I scored Ashleigh the highest as she did very well in the road race without the benefit of a team ( Carla was in the break before bailing and provided no support) while she also did excellent in the ITT. 

Posted
40 minutes ago, dsw said:

The surprise package for me was Stefan de Bod who beat a few very big names in the ITT and also at least finished the Road race while many bigger starts did not even manage to do that.  Not bad at all for a rider who was drafted in as a replacement. 

I scored Ashleigh the highest as she did very well in the road race without the benefit of a team ( Carla was in the break before bailing and provided no support) while she also did excellent in the ITT. 

Carla didn't achieve much for herself, but I think that her participation in the breakaway meant that Ashleigh didn't have to and allowed Ashleigh to sit in the bunch and achieve her result.
Listening to her video on Instagram, she said that the Dutch team would have chased her down if she tried to go in the break.

Posted

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