Incident Total garage on Malibongwe

[Spy007]

 

 

[MTBeer]

2 hours ago, Armandt_R said:

My 2cents for what it's worth. I stopped drink 5 years ago when I got married. It is remarkable how awkward braai's become when you are the only guy drinking a coke. Luckily Alcohol free beer came out and made social events less of a mission. 

This country has a nationwide alcohol problem, once you start brewing up pineapples to get your fix, you should ask some questions.... This isn't normal, if you can't go for a month or two without a "drink", you might have a problem. 

I too, have challenged my friends and family to provide me with some data about the possible health benefits of alcohol. Nothing notable thus far, except the perception of it being a "social lubricant" or "dutch courage". 

Whilst on the rant about traffic violations, speeding... Here in Paarl it's quite an issue, especially past Spice Route (Suider Paarl Road), the speed limit is 80km/h yet people drive 120km/k+ there. It's part of many of the road cycling loops and even leads to many of the MTB trails, so simply avoiding it isn't that easy. 

*Rant over*. Have a great day folks and stay safe.

Maybe you should evaluate the type of people you braai with?

There's a group of us (about 😎 that ride together and often braai together. 2 out of the 8 don't drink at all. They never get ragged. No-one tries to twist their arm to drink. Choose more carefully who you hand around with.

[JJDT]

I do not undertsand the logic to get senselesly drunk that you can not stand on your feet or even "pass out". I do not see the "fun" in this. I was also young coupled with military service where about everybody was drinking. Later it was the aspect of "last man standing". Thinking back today I can not see the logic in that choice. I made a choice later to say that I will never go there again.

I still drink but I limit myself to a single with a max of 2 drinks with alcohol and only on weekends. For me I would like to enjoy the drink and with the price of spirits these days a bottle will last me 6 months.

As also mentioned the choice starts with you and only you can make that call.

[MTBeer]

24 minutes ago, Jewbacca said:

While I agree re the binge drinkers, if you make it zero, you remove the choice of 'I think I'm ok'.

This makes it easy for you as you KNOW you will be breaking the law and not playing margins or 'taking a risk'. 

If the law is zero, you will be making a conscious decision to flout that. Will it change people's behaviour? No, but it does make the decision to break the law more black and white.

Inconvenience is just changing your habits

100%

I'll admit I will drive after one beer. Two beers no.

[KatjieStewels]

4 minutes ago, MTBeer said:

Maybe you should evaluate the type of people you braai with?

There's a group of us (about 😎 that ride together and often braai together. 2 out of the 8 don't drink at all. They never get ragged. No-one tries to twist their arm to drink. Choose more carefully who you hand around with.

Oh yes I have haha, I started cycling two years ago and the cycling community is awesome. Even my wife started cycling this year. 

The braai's in question are the "end of the year" street braai's, I simply don't get invited to the others anymore. 😅

[MTBeer]

Just now, Armandt_R said:

Oh yes I have haha, I started cycling two years ago and the cycling community is awesome. Even my wife started cycling this year. 

The braai's in question are the "end of the year" street braai's, I simply don't get invited to the others anymore. 😅

Luckily for me I don't like socialising, except with good friends, so I've always avoided (where possible) social occasions that involve people I don't know.

[Shebeen]

33 minutes ago, Jewbacca said:

While I agree re the binge drinkers, if you make it zero, you remove the choice of 'I think I'm ok'.

This makes it easy for you as you KNOW you will be breaking the law and not playing margins or 'taking a risk'. 

If the law is zero, you will be making a conscious decision to flout that. Will it change people's behaviour? No, but it does make the decision to break the law more black and white.

Inconvenience is just changing your habits

sort of backs up my point. the "i think I'm OK" people who are already well over the limit are already breaking the law. This doesn't change anything for the people who are the main problem,

I don't see this law having the desired effect, but am more than happy to admit it if/when I'm wrong.

 

 

 

 

[IceCreamMan]

18 minutes ago, MTBeer said:

100%

I'll admit I will drive after one beer. Two beers no.

1 MTbeer then. 

[_David_]

3 hours ago, Spy007 said:

 

 

RIP 😞 

Edited February 2, 2022 by _David_

[justinafrika]

2 hours ago, Jewbacca said:

Not one single person has ever given me one believable reason how alcohol makes their life better

It’s 34℃ at the mo, I’ll get immense pleasure from that single chilled lager after my lunchtime ride through through the valley trails.  Simply love the taste.

[Jewbacca]

1 minute ago, Shebeen said:

sort of backs up my point. the "i think I'm OK" people who are already well over the limit are already breaking the law. This doesn't change anything for the people who are the main problem,

I don't see this law having the desired effect, but am more than happy to admit it if/when I'm wrong.

 

 

 

 

I was referring more to YOU and YOUR decisions as someone who admittedly drives after a couple but feels they are OK. 

You are one of thousands who does that. If the law is zero, YOU (and the others) can't play the internal margins game. It's a flat 'yes or no' conscious decision to flout the law. 

It's putting the onus on YOU to decide as it's clear cut.

It comes back to the 'everyone wants change but isn't willing to change themselves' comment.

There will still be bad blood tests and poorly executed arrests and people getting off on technicalities, but the black and white nature of the law MIGHT just make those who play the fence make better decisions.

[Rowl]

47 minutes ago, Spy007 said:

 

 

What happend?

[MTBeer]

1 minute ago, justinafrika said:

It’s 34℃ at the mo, I’ll get immense pleasure from that single chilled lager after my lunchtime ride through through the valley trails.  Simply love the taste.

Damn right. Nothing beats a cold beer on a hot day. It certainly makes my life better.

And no, 0% beer is not beer

[Spy007]

1 minute ago, Roul said:

What happend?

from the info i have received seems

He was run off his bicycle on Saturday as well, just outside Queenstown!

 

 

[Frosty]

The problem goes deeper in that there is zero regard for the laws of the country, by a large number of the population. Then there are very few consequences when the law is broken, leading people to do things by habit. 

Example: My kids need to see me stopping at a stop street, so one day they will it's the right thing to do. My one daughter said that our neighbour doesn't stop at this particular stop street (on their way to school) and just drives straight through. Bad habits are hard to stop without a conscious effort.

[DieselnDust]

3 hours ago, Vetplant said:

I think the tide is turning.

We were at a kids party at 3PM on a Sunday afternoon recently at a Family Restaurant(No not Spur  ) As soon as the kids went to play, the parents of the birthday-kid brought around a serving plate full of shots. I was having an internal struggle as I didn't want to offend the host, but I really didn't want to drink.

Luckily the guy seated next to me declined, which released my self-doubt and I declined, so did my wife, and the couple sitting across from us also declined. Nobody got ribbed for not taking it.

I think society is slowly seeing a realization that alcohol is not the be-all and end-all. At least in some of the circles I frequent. But unfortunately this is slow progress and a large portion of society is not there yet.

surround yourself with more people who don't drink alcohol and it becomes easier. A bottle of Whiskey lasts a year in my house. Its more of a aromatic reward than a fix. Sometimes when I ork f someones bike I jsut ask for payment in beers. Those beers often stickt around longer than the "best by " date suggests. Its just not a thing. Even after a hard bike ride in the heat a beer is the last thing I'll reach for as unboytjie as that sounds